I'm not sure what the exact question is but yeah some bushings will interchange with other cars. I haven't used Energy Suspension bushings on the 3rd gen so I can't confirm any part numbers are correct.

 

I am just making sure that all I have to do is add an r on the end of the part numbers for energy suspension.

 

Anyone? @1funryd do you have any insights? Just want to make sure I am not wasting my money.

Or @MustardCat do you have any ideas.

Thanks guys.

 

Alright guys. Well I am thinking of cutting my stock springs a little and run taller top hats. Doing that I will be replacing the lower control arm bushings since I know mine will be seized. Indiana isn't nice to cars.

I can get the energy suspension brand pretty cheap at my work(oreillys).
All I have to do is add a r on the end of the part # correct? Because when I look up these numbers some of these bushings are compatible with broncos and f250s and stuff like that. Like the 4.2132r are compatible for ford f350s. But that might be all the computer knows. I know it won't be compatible with preludes but fords? lol

Just curious, Sam

 

I dont know about longivity but unless they just break all apart in less than a year, I would assume they are good.
But at lease you have a few options.

SuperPro
bob3rgarage
Prothane (must piece together and might have to mod)
Energy Suspension (must piece together and might have to mod)

Those are you options.

 

I know this is an older thread but I found this bushing kit on eBay:

88-91 HONDA PRELUDE III BA4 BA5 - all suspension bushings FRONT + REAR | eBay

Honda Prelude 3rd gen wszystkie tuleje zawieszenia - Poliuretan. Dostawa na cały świat. Przesyłka australijska jest ekonomiczna (ze względu na covid), eta ~ 2 miesiące, posiada ubezpieczenie. Wysyłka do USA jest priorytetem, eta ~ 2 tygodnie, ma ubezpieczenie.

www.ebay.com

 

Those guys are new to the community but they have been good so far. They are out of Poland.

 

There is nothing wrong with the es universal fit. It has been stated here that you are to use bigger washers then the ones that come with it. I posted that years ago as I first used what came with it and the washers where bending. I replaced them with bigger washers and no more problems. Also if what amazon is showing for that part number is correct the prothane is bushing you posted is not greaseable. Sorry that you had it break on you. Did you use the original factory Honda bolts?

 

I did use the original Honda bolts with a washer. The washer caused the bolt to not sit flush and break off.

The Prothane bushing isn't greasable, but you could easily install your own zerk fitting and have it be greasable if that's something you want to do.

I much prefer the stock sway bar bracket to the universal fit one.

 

alright, gotta add something.

DO NOT USE the listed, universal fit, front sway bar bushings from Energy Suspension.

They are garbage. You will need to use new hardware, and they caused me to break a damn bolt off in my subframe.

The MUCH better ones that are designed for, well not our chassis, but an Accord, actually fit with our stock bracket.

The Prothane 8-1113 Accord 90-97 25 MM swaybar bushing is a direct fit and a MUCH better bushing.

The end link bushing also fits for these years, but may not be considered a perfect fit since there is no spacer in it, however, I feel like it probably works better for lowered cars that way.

 

I assume your talking about the tow arms for non 4ws. Those are megan racing and I believe are for from 5th gen prelude. 97-01. Many have used them. I think they require some big washers but other then that since they are adjustable they fit.

 

You should lube the contact areas of the bush to sleeve and also the inner of the sleeve itself(or the bolt), I use an anti-sieze here, as that stops the sleeves from rusting to the bolt and causing the common problem that we see on older cars.

 

I have a question that may have been answered in one of the 20 pages but wanted to ask the group...

For the outer LCA bushings, what do you need to lube? just the inner shaft where the metal sleeve comes in contact with the poly? That makes the most sense but wanted to double check

 

You know I'm always calm........ you making stupid assumptions about my motives would upset a more sensitive person though, with good reason.
Correcting things can still be done while very calm, in fact it is better done that way.

 

I understand how they work and I am not upset in the slightest. Keep calm and chive on.

 

I think your barking up the wrong tree Jon. A: you can't see the other side of that bushing and your just making an assumption. B: you have reason to make false assumptions since you sell the very kit that costs much more and that this thread has taken that business away from. I respect you and there is something to be said for supporting companies that make parts, complete kit parts for our model chassis. However I personally have the tools and means to install all prothane or es (energy suspension) bushings and prefer to save money. I list superpro/superflex first in this thread and have had it that way since the beginning. I list you as a supplier in the first post. In fact since photobucket had there problem years ago I only show one or two pics of prothane bushings in first post. I am too busy getting things done that I need too at the moment. I have all the bushings with clear easy to read id printouts pictures. I will add them when I get a chance and I am sorry for the slow fix. I will also document everything when I do mine. You said so everybody is meant to fix big washers to them and that doesn't make it any better. I don't understand what you mean by this considering the same shock mount and upper control arm bushings superflex / superpro makes for our chasssis has same big washers. If people buy the washers I listed a part number for from mcmaster they will fit all the bushings upper and lower. I would have to add it up but it seemed like about 26 was needed per car.

By the way since I said that about complete kits made for this car. This bushing in question the lower control arm front and rear outer bushings are made for our car. It is a direct interchangable part. If you look up the 3rd gen accord or the 3rd gen prelude you will come to the same factory honda part #, Parts box bin, and part / bushings. If there is any differences in length of the inner metal collar I am unaware of that. That will be determined. I know mine were exact right length preinstall and since the bushing is a direct interchange or part if you will then I doubt to find any problems.

 

I think your barking up the wrong tree Jon. A: you can't see the other side of that bushing and your just making an assumption.

I am taking it for what it is, you can see the other side in the other picture. You are equally making an assumption that I am not seeing it correctly.

B: you have reason to make false assumptions since you sell the very kit that costs much more and that this thread has taken that business away from.

That is the biggest piece of bullshit I've ever heard from you.
You seriously think it is motivated by the fact that I've sold a few kits to people here over the years? Seriously? Do you even see me advertising them on here?
You clearly know nothing about me at all, even after all this time.
Slagging off another product is an American method of sales (look at your tv ads), I have much more about me than that.

This thread has taken no busineess from me whatsoever, in fact quite the opposite. People that want the best will pay for it.
Selling them at a very good discounted price is just me being helpful to people in here. Probably equates to 0.0001% of my income from these products over the last 10 years. I don't often do that these days, I send them direct to the retailer/manufacturer as I am too busy most of the time.
Promoting them is just another example of me knowing a good product that does its job.
Your assumptions are so far off the mark they make you ridiculous.

However I personally have the tools and means to install all prothane or es (energy suspension) bushings and prefer to save money.

And some people prefer to pay a little extra and not have ot mes about modifying stock parts to get them to fit properly/at all.


You have lots of self creditation for these cheap bushes Kev but if they don't work well enough then I will comment, whatever stupid motive you assume I have. I've never been interested in making money or taking credit, just getting people parts that work properly.

I will also document everything when I do mine.

So you've still never even fitted any of them! Yet get so upset when I suggest they may not fit as well as they should. Wow. Try fitting them before making such comments.

You said so everybody is meant to fix big washers to them and that doesn't make it any better. I don't understand what you mean by this considering the same shock mount and upper control arm bushings superflex / superpro makes for our chasssis has same big washers

And that is simply down to the fact that you don't really understand how they work.. or don't.

I'l explain briefly... fittig nwashers to those will simply compress the bushes even more. The sleeve (let's assume the pic is correct as I already stated/questioned in my first comment) is too short. The bushes should not be compressed. Simple.

If there is any differences in length of the inner metal collar I am unaware of that. That will be determined.

Which is why I questioned it in the first place. Try reading properly before getting all hyped up over it.

They fit like shit if what you can see in the picture is as it appears.

Notice the query within that comment?
That was because we cannot be 100% certain from that pic but you asked the question of "Why?" before sam responded!

 

I bought some arms with those bushings pre-installed and I don't remember the sleeves on them being too narrow. They also didn't come with any washers and I haven't had any issues with them because of that. Could be some inconsistency with sleeve lengths for those kits.

 

This is very possible.
It would explain why I've had a few people who have these ask me about them binding up.

 

You talking to me Kev?
If so ..

They fit like shit if what you can see in the picture is as it appears. The bushes are way too wide for the inner sleeve.
Then I assume everyone is meant to fit big washers to them?
Which doesn't make it any better.

Those bushes will be compressed once everything is fitted and tightened.
Which means there is no movement in the bush at all.
Absolutely shite fit.
The only saving grace is that it's on a bush that doesn't rotate too much.

 

care to elaborate?

 

make sure you use metal washers on the prothane

 

Which outers are you using?

 

Prothane 8-907's

 

Here are the Super Pro bushings you want for the lower rear inner control arm.

Untitled by samhain526, on Flickr

They fit perfectly. Thanks to everyone for your help.
Untitled by samhain526, on Flickr
Untitled by samhain526, on Flickr

 

All of the SuperPro/SuperFlex bushes fit without modifications to anything, that's how we developed them.

I have some pics on here showing them after 8 years of abuse as well if anyone is in doubt.

 

Thank you for the reassurance. I ordered a set for the rear. When they come in I will post up some pics of them installed.

 

Super-Pros will fit perfect. I don't have a picture but this video shows them going in: https://youtu.be/Ch8X2tkKp0g

 

You're the Man. Thank you.

 

I'm in the middle of replacing my rear bushings and somehow I got confused as to what I need for the rear inner lower control arm. After doing some more reading, it appears there are two options: 1) Super Pro's SPF2133K or 2) Prothane's B3130, which need to be trimmed and cut.

I don't really want to "modify" anything if I don't have to, so I'm leaning towards the Super Pro SPF2133K. What I would like is some confirmation that the giant bolt will fit through the Super Pro bushing. Does anyone have any pics of these installed? I have added some pics for clarification.

Thanks in advance.

Untitled by samhain526, on Flickr

Untitled by samhain526, on Flickr

 

Well, thanks all for the updates and info. My bank account is rapidly depleting. Especially after ordering all the damned bushings for this car!

 

well. I posted a pic of them fitting on the rear. I haven't had a chance to install them yet. I would like to confirm them working for the rear, but I probably wont be getting an alignment any time soon :/

soon as I can get time back in the shop, ill have them installed and driving on them..

 

Thanks for posting Dave. 16.7102R is the hockey puck shape ones I was talking about. I have a mix of both prothane and es bushings and have both saved on amazon. Add a g instead of R if someone wants black bushings.

I am pretty sure the 16.7103R that you tried on the front that you just stated as binding too much are the biggest of the 3 Honda/Acura radius rod bushings available. The middle sized ones come with a metal collar/sleeve and are different internal hole diameter so won't work without modification or at all. I got all my pics taken quite awhile back but summer plans had pushed it to back burner.

As for the 16.7103R fitting I said presumably earlier this week because I don't recall you mentioning them in your build thread. However while you tried them on the front another member, I think it was frijoles, tried them on the rear and they physically fit but when I asked him if he had driven with them or got an alignment he said he hadn't. So I had refrained from saying they fit till that had been done.

But for the rear the 16.7102R fit out of the box like my cross referencing of part numbers showed years ago with super pro catalog. Same car. The blue moog are shaped just like the Honda oem cone version and considered and marketed by moog as a step stiffer then stock rubber but not as harsh as pure polyurethane. These moog will be a direct fit for the rear too. So we have options to play with. The moog might work on the front but not positive of that because when you drill them to fit your going to cut out the top of the cone same way you would if you did it to the old rubber rear oem Honda bushings to make them fit the front.

8-1201 prothane is the same bushing as the es (energy suspension) brand 16.7102R if you have prothane and want to stick with prothane. This will fit the rear out of the box and will fit the front as Dave aka mustard cat has confirmed once you drill them out as he has shown with a holesaw drill bit.