To answer your immidiate question I believe they are the same engines made from 98'-00'. Same 87mm bore and same 90.7mm stroke. same 11:1 compression ratio. Same hp and torque numbers. Different valve covers euro blue type-s red.

 

about cams

Well I'm not sure how credible that source off yours is but you can get the type-s cams from here: http://www.jhpusa.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21_32_86&products_id=201

 

Anybody have any info on this

 

Different tranny, Type S has ATTS and the Euro R has LSD. Different intake manifold. Head on the Type S is ported from the factory. The block codes are H22A4 on the Type S and H22A7 on the Euro R.

 

as far as the cams go i also heard that the type-s are the same as the f20b engine. the only way i know how to tell the difference is measuring the lobes with a micrometer. this is why i am very skeptical about buying "type-s" cams from a second hand seller. many people think that they have type-s cams because they have jdm h22 which is incorrect. to many scammers and ignorant people. hell i have come across people who still think the type sh has 220hp. its terrible.

 

holy mother of god!! i dont know how that happened. i clicked post twice in 10 minutes. sorry mods

 

if your going NA all the way, Stock cams should not be on your list.

 

if your going NA all the way, Stock cams should not be on your list.

2.2 Do you know how to tell the difference between the type s cams/stock cams and euro R? There has to be some kind of markings on them right

 

so the only difference between the h22a and h22a S is that the S is ported from the factory? i'm looking into h22s because i'm savin up this summer to possibly get one.

 

so the only difference between the h22a and h22a S is that the S is ported from the factory? i'm looking into h22s because i'm savin up this summer to possibly get one.

ported and have a little bit higher compression. Also the cams are more aggressive as well.

 

so the only difference between the h22a and h22a S is that the S is ported from the factory? i'm looking into h22s because i'm savin up this summer to possibly get one.

yes


Fastkill.....i would imagine that there is a part number on the ends of the cams. From what i have read the Euro R and Type S share the same head. Their intakes and exhausts are different.

 

im planning on building the motor anyway for turbo. so getting an S, would it be just a waste of money? and i know it's best to get the h22a not the a4 correct?

 

If your going turbo then don't get the type-s. Between the JDM h22 and usdm h22a4? usdm has a tad bit lower compression than the jdm; but I guess that won't matter if you build the block.

 

so don't go with the S since i'm building the block or is there another reason?

 

so don't go with the S since i'm building the block or is there another reason?

yes. Why would you buy an expensive motor just to rebuild it?

 

yes. Why would you buy an expensive motor just to rebuild it?

:stupid: yeah! What he said.....:emthup:

 

my plan is to buy the h22a and build it all up the way i want it then drop it in when it's finished. should give me more time for all this custom motor mount crap to be worked out.

 

yes


Fastkill.....i would imagine that there is a part number on the ends of the cams. From what i have read the Euro R and Type S share the same head. Their intakes and exhausts are different.

I just wanted to know i don;t wanna go buy types s pistons and get ripped off because they are actually stock usdm ones. does anyone know what the markings are?

 

I just bought an h22a1 prelude.was told it has type s pistons in it! I took the head off and the markings on the pistons say P13A. R those type s pistons?

I just wanted to know i don;t wanna go buy types s pistons and get ripped off because they are actually stock usdm ones. does anyone know what the markings are?

 

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Actually, wouldn't a 4th gen H22A1 be the best choice here as its cheaper and has a closed deck? Plus many come with LSD trannies and are readily available in the U.S. Yes, I realize the head is not as good as A or A4, but once again, would that really matter if you're rebuilding? Besides, you could always use a 5g head if it really mattered. It just seems that if you're going turbo, it would be better to use a closed deck and have a bit more strength w/o having to spend the extra cash on getting a block guard or sleeves. Maybe that's all wrong and stupid, I dunno, just makes sense to me.

 

closed deck isnt a better block because of cooling issues (hence the reason honda changed to the A4) now add a turbo. if you do lsd i would recommend getting a quaife because you have no parts here for the Euro or JDM LSD tranny and they are a bitch to get. another thing is you'll never have enough boost to blow sleeves whether you're open deck or closed deck. you definately dont want the Type S because it is ATTS and not LSD.

 

http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=641555

maybe this will help a little. its the reason i asked blake that question in the n/a thread

 

i remember back in 2007 when i was a noob to the h22...and blake deffinatly put me in my place..hahaha...after that i read every thread blake made and learned a ton...the thread is around here somewhere....if you have questions about the h22 or h23 message blake first b4 making a thread because then you will get a bunch of misleading oppinions...

 

Accord Euro R ( Type-R in EU ) and Prelude Type-S have the same camshafts the part numbers are the same 14111-P5P-J00 and 14121-P5P-J00

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