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[Resolved] H23a please help - running bad, misfiring, stalling out

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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
Back story: 1992 prelude si with jdm h23a swap.
- Bought it already swapped. It was running with original resistor box, which i discovered today it has saturated injectors so I did away with the box.

- When I bought it, it had a noise in the engine that I diagnosed as a bad wrist pin. The last day i ran the car it was running bad, misfiring, stalling out, so i assumed the engine problem was getting worse and tore it down. I was wrong. When I tore it down someone had put h22 rods and pistons in it so they were coming up out of the hole and causing piston slap.

Didn't get the cylinders as bad as you would think. I bought a donor h23a and put oem rods and pistons, all new everything. That parts good, I have 185-200 dry compression across the board.

Since the rebuild i have yet to get it to run right. It'll barely start, once it does you have to mess with the throttle like crazy to make it stay alive.
  • I've played with distributor timing,
  • rechecked physical timing,
  • confirmed injector pulse,
  • replaced fuel pump,
  • replaced distributor cap and button.
  • Verified spark on all 4 holes.
If you spray carb cleaner on intake filter the car will run smooth and good. Without that its like its running on 1 cylinder.
Barely. Seems to be plenty of fuel pressure.
  • All injectors ohm out to 14.
  • Only cel is code 12 for the egr delete.

Please help me figure out what im missing here???
 
#28 ·
Ok, I itemized what you did to break up the step by step.

So running the injector box on a saturated injectors somehow still allowed it to run normal but over time did do damage to the injectors from what we are seeing you are saying.

Glad to see that the junkyard injectors helped point you toward a more focused solution.
Let us know once you get some proper injectors and test whether that fixes your issue, so we can call this resolved and edit your first post and the title so this whole thread is useful to all on the site.
 
#29 ·
Will do for sure, this one was definitely a head scratcher for me, and I really appreciate everyone that tried to help. This was my 1st time truly relying on this forum. The best solution i can come up with is either A: buy h22a4 injectors or B: send off the h23a injectors to be rebuilt (I've never had that done). Best i can tell from research the a4 injectors are roughly 20cc smaller, idk if that would be cause for concern or not though.
 
#34 ·
OK, pretty definitive conclusion here.
1st off, avoid all of my troubles and start with getting an actual fuel pressure reading. It would've saved me an incredible amount of time and a small amount of money.
2nd, if you go to change your fuel filter and discover its in terrible shape, don't Just let it go and move on. I feel my testing was pretty good minus working with no pressure data, but I missed a huge tell. The filter was trashed, looked like mud water, i cut it open and the element had broke off, rust and debris everywhere. What i didnt catch at the time was all that crude made it to the injectors/little filters in injectors. Today I replaced the injector filters and soaked them in some cleaner. She runs like a top now, smooth as can be.
Hopefully this mess of information will help someone in the future. Thanks for any and all help on here.