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Now that my car isn't so goddamn low, and has good shocks, I've been playing Tommi Makinen in the dirt parking lot at work. This got me to thinking: Could I prep the Prelude for some light rallying?

Then, upon further thought, and some input from other 3gers, I've decided maybe the Prelude isn't the best platform to use. But I still wanna build a gnarly little car to take out to Ocatillo Wells and piss off the bros with their Rangers and Tacomas.

Requirements:
  • Dirt cheap.
    • I'm talking mechanically strong, body is whatever, for about five bills. The interior is gonna get stripped and I'll probably run over the front bumper in half an hour, so I'm not too worried about looks.
  • Ugly.
    • Not really a requirement, but it would be nice, so I don't feel bad about fucking it up.
  • Parts available at the junkyard.
    • Cars that were produced in large numbers, and possibly cross-platformed so that other models will have useful parts when I start breaking things.
  • McPherson struts.
    • This shouldn't be hard to find, but I don't really want to use an 80's or 90's Honda because the front suspension has too many parts that could break.
So here's some possibilities I've come up with:
  • Ford Festiva
    • Lots of Mazda 323 parts, ugly, cheap, McPherson struts.
  • Ford Escort
    • More power than the Festiva, and has actually been used in rally racing before
  • Subaru Justy
    • Hard to find, but it's AWD, and Subaru is as notorious as Honda for parts sharing, so I might be able to put an older Legacy engine in it or something. They're also pretty ugly.
  • Bulleted lists are dope
    • Well, they are.
Maybe a Sentra or Metro would work, too, but Sentras are still kind of expensive and Metros have no power. Anyone have any other ideas?
 

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I have a plymouth horizon I use to tear up the dirt. I'll sell it to ya!



like this but two tone maroon on black

Parts are compatable with the dodge omni. Both widely produced and readilly junkyard available.

Peugeot/ chystler engine *rally heritage*

2.2 liter 93 horsepower and 122 lb-ft torque 5 speed

Wheelbase: 99.1
Track: front, 56.1; rear, 55.7
Overall length - 163.2; width, 66.8; height, 53.0
Curb weight: 2,296 pounds
Headroom, front and rear: 38.1 and 36.9
Legroom, front and rear: 42.1 and 33.3
Shoulder room, front and rear: 51.7 and 51.5
Hip room, front and rear: 52.6 and 46.4
Cargo volume: 15.6 cubic feet - Interior volume: 100.2 cubic feet
Fuel tank: 13.0 gallons - Gas mileage: 26 city, 35 highway (manual)

fun little car.
 

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There is an older escort in my city thats 100% done for rallying, looks pretty sweet.

I would say try and find a justy, for the 4wd. But really look for any light old beater.
 

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I was gonna suggest the sentra. I would think a non-SE-R would be fairly inexpensive.

If you're worried about breaking suspension parts, i would probably go with the honda. The load is distributed in the honda, vertical forces through the spring/strut, lateral loads in the linkage. You're taking the side and vertical loads in a mcstrut. You would probably be going through them like candy.

Maybe an old civic. Cheap, and there's tons of parts in the junkyard for dirt cheap.
 

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I wonder how a 4WS Prelude would do... I know my 2WS Lude does great for all the hell I put it through. Whould woulda though an I4 Honda could go mud bogging, yes, real mudbogging.
 

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4WD Toyota Tercel!
 

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626 5spd. Mine was $600 (95) and a POS of a car for a trade (sunfire w/blown engine). You could probably get a 90-95 model for $5-600 beat up with a lot of miles on it. Parts exchange between MX-6/Probe (including some parts from other cars). Rides good, there's a shit load of them in the junker b/c the auto trannys sucked (especially in the 93-97 models). They hold no value (i think b/c of their history of sucky auto trannys).

Festiva is good. When I was 15 we had one we cut the top off of and ran the shit out of it in our field. Can be a pretty fun car. Easy to work on and killer MPG.

What about a mitsubishi mirage / dodge/plymouth colt? Also killer MPG and cheap.

Edit: 626 isn't probably good for a rally car i thought it said daily...argh half asleep. 626=sucky handling, I have to throw it out there though since I own a few :). I know a festiva will handle decent in the dirt from personal experience. Dodge colt in a 2dr hatch could work out too.
 

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Hmm... I like the Omni/Horizon.
Too bad I have an HOA and they wouldn't appreciate my having a black-primered stripped-out shitbox parked out front. Maybe when I get my own place I'll look more seriously into this...
 

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i say look at older cars that were designed for rally racing. you can get a really old audi with quattro drive for not too much, and the old ones are kinda ugly. or an old subie with awd. remeber, quattro and subaru imprezas were designed specifically for rallying! its also better to look for awd instead of 4wd. LSD is necessary.
 

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festiva or a dodge shadow they are everywhere and you can use parts from a sundance or a duster they are a 2.5l 4 cylinder make more power than an eg civic stock for stock and they are cheap me n my friends made one into a race car and we might take it off road soon and do some rally racing. its a decent platform cut the muffler off gut the intake and its like 25 whp right there you can really really feel the difference from just that cuz thats all we did.
 

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chevy citation ...

any semi-old domestic econo box would do.

dirt cheap to maintain and fix, and plenty of power

hondas are dependable, but in no way are any import parts cheap. this is why i would not go with any import.
 

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Yeah that's why I didn't really look at older Audis. I have one (non-quattro), and getting repair parts is a bitch. I also kinda wanted an FWD because there's less parts to break.
I was talking to a guy once that rallied out a Tempo. Custom turbo and stuff. Made a wing out of plywood and the sides of a computer case as a joke :D
If I ever did get around to this, I'd probably just use the first $500 manual car I found in running condition. But I think the ones I'd look for are the older mopars (Omni/Horizon or Shadow/Acclaim/Sundance/Duster/Aries). The potential for putting that turbo minivan engine in it is really tempting :D

Are there generic/universal coilovers for Strut McNugget/twist beam suspensions like there are for hondas?

Oh what about older volkswagens? There's a ton of those in the junkyard all the time.
 

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not jump back on the starion again... but they were made with rallying in mind...

for example: the car's name... starion ESI-R(ally)

that would be neat to see ;)
 

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I'd like to have one of the 4wd Starions... But with the pop-up lights. I don't like the fixed lights on the 4wd. Was there even a street version of that car, or was it race-only?

And I don't realy like baja bugs. Don't know why, but they just have this wierd vibe I don't like.
 

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we had an old n/a rx7 we used as a field beater after it was crashed into a guardrail.

it was a good car...

that or try a hyundai excel....theyre decent and cheap.


Subaru's are the way to go though...find an old 90' legacy sedan.
 

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airborne road cars are always tight :D Running starion/conquests are expensive, though. Never thought about a Hyundai Excel. I used to work with a guy that had one back in the day. He said he ate Accents for breakfast when they came out and people started playing with them (all two or three Accent racers)
My mom had one that burst into flames on the freeway at about 188k miles, so they're pretty reliable, and as long as you keep checking for bad wiring or oil leaks (we never did figure out why it exploded). That was a pretty funny incident, though. The hood release cable had already burned through by the time the FD got there, and they tried opening the hood with prybars.... But the hood on that car opens forward :D Took them a minute to figure it out and get a hose in there to blast it.
 
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