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who here has done this conversion before without the dash harness? I am in the process of doing it now. However, before I put the pins inside the sockets, Does anyone know if I put in the wires Left to right with the plug like this:


or like this:



also, is there anyone with an AT tranny thats done this?
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sean1121
Not sure, but maybe this will help:


I'm getting my 4ws EL cluster this week so I'll post anything I come across while installing it.
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bboixtc
Helpp

ok either I fucked up, or my cluster is dead. So I really really really really need someone with an automatic 92-93 prelude to take a picture of their dash harnesses, the ones that go into the cluster. So I can re-wire it back to the way it was with my old cluster.

HELPPPPP

right now I am driving around with no cluster. so if anyone with an Automatic prelude 92-93 help. thanks
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I am also in the process to do this swap as well so here are the original wiring harness color from my 92 PRELUDE ( I double check 2 times between the in car wiring harness against my circuit diagram from a 92 PRELUDE manual)
first is the picture of the original connector location


and the original wiring color and the pin 1 is from the left to to right of the conenctor as in your second picture
Harness B (10 pins)
B1- Red/Black stripe (thicker wire)
B2- Red/Black dot (thicker wire)
B3- Blue/Silver dot
B4- Black/Silver dot (GROUND)
B5- Yellow/Silver dot (POWER)
B6- No wire
B7- Red/Blue stripe (thicker wire)
B8- Red/Yellow stripe (thicker wire)
B9- Green/Blue stripe
B10- Green/Yellow stripe

Harness C (5 pins)
C1- Yellow/Silver dot (POWER)
C2- No wire
C3- Blue
C4- No wire
C5- Black/Silver dot

Harness A (16 pins)
A1- Pink/Silver dot
A2- No Wire
A3- No Wire
A4 Orange/Silver dot
A5- No Wire
A6- No Wire
A7- Yellow/Silver dot (POWER)
A8- Black/Silver dot (GROUND)
A9- No Wire
A10- No Wire
A11- No Wire
A12- No Wire
A13- No Wire
A14- No Wire
A15- No Wire
A16- No Wire

as for an automatic car you will have 2 more wires for the auto gear postion indicator as in pin
A5- Yellow/Silver dot
A12- Green/Orange

hope that help you out
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92_VTEC_lude said:
I am also in the process to do this swap as well so here are the original wiring harness color from my 92 PRELUDE ( I double check 2 times between the in car wiring harness against my circuit diagram from a 92 PRELUDE manual)
first is the picture of the original connector location


and the original wiring color and the pin 1 is from the left to to right of the conenctor as in your second picture
Harness B (10 pins)
B1- Red/Black stripe (thicker wire)
B2- Red/Black dot (thicker wire)
B3- Blue/Silver dot
B4- Black/Silver dot (GROUND)
B5- Yellow/Silver dot (POWER)
B6- No wire
B7- Red/Blue stripe (thicker wire)
B8- Red/Yellow stripe (thicker wire)
B9- Green/Blue stripe
B10- Green/Yellow stripe

Harness C (5 pins)
C1- Yellow/Silver dot (POWER)
C2- No wire
C3- Blue
C4- No wire
C5- Black/Silver dot

Harness A (16 pins)
A1- Pink/Silver dot
A2- No Wire
A3- No Wire
A4 Orange/Silver dot
A5- No Wire
A6- No Wire
A7- Yellow/Silver dot (POWER)
A8- Black/Silver dot (GROUND)
A9- No Wire
A10- No Wire
A11- No Wire
A12- No Wire
A13- No Wire
A14- No Wire
A15- No Wire
A16- No Wire

as for an automatic car you will have 2 more wires for the auto gear postion indicator as in pin
A5- Yellow/Silver dot
A12- Green/Orange

hope that help you out
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yes that did help thank you. my only problem is with the last harness because I have 13 wires coming from that part, and I also have 4ws.

***update****

ok I just did that and my tach works but my spedo doesn't I did not hook up harness A yet because I am unsure of the of my extra wires. I'm sure that some of the extra wires are used to indicate what gear I am in. but some of the others may be to indicate errors with 4ws

and it does not light up.
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how many wires you have left?

for 4WS system all I see is that
A1- Pink/ Silver dot (going to 4WS Control Unit)
and
A4- Orange (also going to 4WS Control Unit)
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Circuit Diagram of the Gauge and Sub-Gauge from my PRELUDE manual



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sadly I just finished the swap and the cluster does not work (only my left blinker worked fine...:tongue2: ), could be the JDM inverter (from a RHD prelude) at fault, going to test the 94 SRV cluster, the JDM inverter using a working swap in my friend 92 prelude to see which component is at fault.... If both components work in my friend car then time to search for a complete harness from a 94 + prelude....:wzbigcry:
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92_VTEC_lude said:
sadly I just finished the swap and the cluster does not work (only my left blinker worked fine...:tongue2: ), could be the JDM inverter (from a RHD prelude) at fault, going to test the 94 SRV cluster, the JDM inverter using a working swap in my friend 92 prelude to see which component is at fault.... If both components work in my friend car then time to search for a complete harness from a 94 + prelude....:wzbigcry:
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LOL same here. Only the left blinker worked. I was like wtf? it didn't even light up. I NEED A DASH HARNESS. fuck that wire splicing. took me like 2hrs to cut and extend those wires... and i didn't have a wire cutter either. just had my hands, paper clip, sissors, soldering iron and a box cutter.

Thanks for the diagram!!!! now to wire them back up.
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so did you get it fixed ??

oh yea wiring w/o the right tools is a task in its own
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whats the difference in the two dashes anyways?
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bboixtc
one is hot and the other isn't.

btw, I hooked up those lines back, and I had 7 cables left over. I'm assuming they are for the

P,R,N,D4,D3,D2,D1

however, my speedometer doesn't work, nor does my trip meter or odometer. so do you think those 7 cables have something to do with it?


and yeah, the 4ws light did turn on.
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92_VTEC_lude said:
sadly I just finished the swap and the cluster does not work (only my left blinker worked fine...:tongue2: ), could be the JDM inverter (from a RHD prelude) at fault, going to test the 94 SRV cluster, the JDM inverter using a working swap in my friend 92 prelude to see which component is at fault.... If both components work in my friend car then time to search for a complete harness from a 94 + prelude....:wzbigcry:
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let me know about what was wrong w/ the cluster too, because I had the same problem, and when I turned on the high beam, it started to smell funny so i d/c everything.
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it is a freaking rain/snow mix day over here today so I can not test the cluster or the inverter yet until this Sunday when the weather all sunny again...
the speedometer works off only the Harness A and it needs

Harness A (16 pins)
A1- Pink/Silver dot (going to 4WS control unit)
A4 Orange/Silver dot (coming from the VSS)
A7- Yellow/Silver dot (POWER)
A8- Black/Silver dot (GROUND)

if you hook the wires back to the right pin your speedometer should work as normal
if you hook up those 4 wires and leave other 3 not hook up your speedo still should work as normal.
as for the AT gear indicator I will get you its own diagram in a little bit since I am busy at work right now.
it took me 1 hour to solder them all wires to the right spot I have all the right tools for the job) and the cluster is not working, pissed me right off...
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dark_rican
Hmmmm Need help much?????
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here is the AT Indicator wiring diagram from the manual and it shows all your extra wires are on Harness A
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dark_rican said:
Hmmmm Need help much?????
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yeah but you don't answer my calls. you suck. i let everyone know that your probably one of the most knowledgeable people when it comes to ludes, then u complain to me about people only calling you when they need help. lol so come tonight or sat cause we gotta get crunked for my bday on 420.
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92_VTEC_lude said:
here is the AT Indicator wiring diagram from the manual and it shows all your extra wires are on Harness A
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omg thanks. i'm gonna do this on sat. when i have time. 420 is my bday so i don't plan on doing shit to my car that day. Does anyone know where i can get an AT dash harness for a 94+ non S model???
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i wanna see i pick of this cluster i changed mine to the h22 cluster and i think it looks good.

no speedo = no vtec so sad...
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bboixtc
ok so my speedo still does not work, my D4 does not light up, but everything else works.

I also have a solid light green wire left over.
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