Not a bad set of pads for the price. And the warranty is unbeatable. I had doubted that they would replace my worn out CMAX gold pads for my TL-S, but I just took them in, gave them my phone #, and exchanged the old worn out ones for some fresh new ones. So far, so good. No complaints here. And for a DD, stopping that huge pig of a car, they do really well. CMAX gold, F&R.