huge gains in torque, period, weak ass motor like mine with 173ft/lb on first run, stock block still. God I hope the next one goes even betteryea i saw that crx. the topmount kinda seems like a stupid setup. I wonder how it would do with turbo setups
maybe he should try it on his own race car then. I hope you plan on racing your car at the track so we can see what it can do cuz some dyno numbers arent saying anything.huge gains in torque, period, weak ass motor like mine with 173ft/lb on first run, stock block still. God I hope the next one goes even better
I use dave's stuff because I like it and trust him; sorry if that really offends somebody as I have read the stuff on honda tech way back. I've had more nonsense with other more reputable places and atleast with dave, things get here, he can carry on a conversation about his ideas and pushes things through that may seem radical or like the comment above saying it looks like a stupid setup, etc etc. Go with who you trust but despite the stuff about him on honda-tech it has been nothing but great results and advise between here and dh-racing.
not building a race car here, and maybe you should call him and say such challenges seems pretty dumb to type it on a forum; you should know that with all the comments you've made over the years in similar mannersmaybe he should try it on his own race car then. I hope you plan on racing your car at the track so we can see what it can do cuz some dyno numbers arent saying anything.
I always wondered why people put there manifolds on a flow bench when you're dealing with pulses.i hate flowbenches. while they do a good job to tell you if a single runner flows similarly to the other runners, they are completely unable to test more than a single port at a time with seperate results for each port. flowbenches also test by blowing constant air through them. which has nothing to do with anything because thats not even remotely close to how an engine works. what needs to be tested but there isnt a machine for yet, is pulsed flow alternating from cyl to cyl in the exact fashion that an engine would pull the air.
flowbenching a single manifold by itsself is fine so you can see how even each port is for flow/restriction. but there is no way to test how the manifold/plenum/TB combo will actually perform on the actual engine, it simply cant be simulated and measured accurately by any means
not even just the whole pulse thing, but the whole engine characteristic thing;I always wondered why people put there manifolds on a flow bench when you're dealing with pulses.
Arent you the same person who claims that whp are just arbitrary numbers?i still dont get why people use DH. I understand he used him but why? He has a crx that makes 300whp and it still runs 11's.....
Well, you just said yourself, that whp is irrelevant.
Frankly looking at it like this. Whats the fastest running prelude that we know about? Its either MD23vtec or Oaks Racing. Out of the 2 of them, they both have about 800 whp IIRC. And they are breaking 10's.
So you mean to tell me that having another 500 whp will only offer up 1 more second at the track vs a 300 whp lude? Mabey, it really doesnt matter.
And IIRC the curb weight isnt that big of a factor. What is the estimated weight vs time ratio? 100lbs = 0.01 seconds?
So if you have a car that is 3000 lbs vs a car that is 1900 lbs(using the lowest weighted stock CRX vs a stock fifth gen prelude weigth) were talking a whole whopping 1.1 second.
And the rest would vary on driver skills, and other various random elements.
or so you sayyou think outside of a broken box.