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09-11-2019 12:10 PM
1funryd
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Originally Posted by BA5 View Post
So what are you guys hooking up to for the rear subframe? Are you cutting stuff out and welding in new tabs or using existing mounting points?
We are using the new subframe we came up with for a bolt in solution.
09-09-2019 11:30 AM
BA5 So what are you guys hooking up to for the rear subframe? Are you cutting stuff out and welding in new tabs or using existing mounting points?
08-30-2019 12:52 PM
1funryd
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Originally Posted by MG2 View Post
Any more progress?
Not right now, the NSX we were working on came back and needed to be finished after its out we will be moving the car up to the shop.
08-30-2019 10:30 AM
MG2 Any more progress?
07-08-2019 08:19 PM
Jon Lasaga
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Originally Posted by MustardCat View Post
Get the transmission, driveshaft, rear diff, and rear axles. The stock parts should be fine for n/a builds but if you are adding lots of power they aren't made for that. Good news is Honda AWD swaps are kind of taking off and various companies are starting to offer upgrades for this stuff.

Some examples:
https://dragcartel.com/products/b-se...QoIAOliK8Oa_RY

https://automotiveknd.com/shop/drive...l-system-dpqs/


FYI there is also a billet H22 AWD bellhousing in development that will accept the B-series transfer case. This may ultimately be the best solution for AWD Preludes because using B-series transmissions requires the engine to lean forward, even with an H2B setup. The overall fit in the engine bay just isn't as good like that, having it lean back a bit like with H-series / stock engine is much better.

Here is an example of the prototype diff mount that was made for the S2k rear diff, however this idea has been scrapped:


The current idea is to only support the CR-V/Element rear diff and develop one mount that will fit on 2WS and 4WS cars. It should look very similar to this.


Currently this project is waiting on one vehicle to leave my property then I will be able to bring up the development car and make further progress on it.
Good to know. Someone ended up buying the whole car that I found but im on the lookout for another one. Thanks for the info.
07-07-2019 01:18 AM
MustardCat Get the transmission, driveshaft, rear diff, and rear axles. The stock parts should be fine for n/a builds but if you are adding lots of power they aren't made for that. Good news is Honda AWD swaps are kind of taking off and various companies are starting to offer upgrades for this stuff.

Some examples:
https://dragcartel.com/products/b-se...QoIAOliK8Oa_RY

https://automotiveknd.com/shop/drive...l-system-dpqs/


FYI there is also a billet H22 AWD bellhousing in development that will accept the B-series transfer case. This may ultimately be the best solution for AWD Preludes because using B-series transmissions requires the engine to lean forward, even with an H2B setup. The overall fit in the engine bay just isn't as good like that, having it lean back a bit like with H-series / stock engine is much better.

Here is an example of the prototype diff mount that was made for the S2k rear diff, however this idea has been scrapped:


The current idea is to only support the CR-V/Element rear diff and develop one mount that will fit on 2WS and 4WS cars. It should look very similar to this.


Currently this project is waiting on one vehicle to leave my property then I will be able to bring up the development car and make further progress on it.
07-06-2019 02:52 PM
Jon Lasaga Hey 1funryd I just found a 1997 crv in a junkyard and Im thinking about giving the awd swap a try. How much of the drivetrain will be reusable from the crv in the prelude? Also how much power can the diff from the crv take before its in danger of breaking?
05-23-2019 08:27 PM
Jon Lasaga Very cool project and exactly what I wanted to do with my 3rd gen. If you make a kit for this message me ill buy for sure.
05-22-2019 05:14 PM
J90lude I never thought the day would come to see a AWD Lude. My Lude has been gone over a decade now. I know AWD is very costly but the route y'all going with this. I think I might go back to the Lude days. I'm not too crazy on power. If the future works out for motor on a driveshat and diff that'll be great. Keeping my eye open on this project.
05-15-2019 11:00 AM
1funryd
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Originally Posted by MG2 View Post
U can add me to that list of buyers. Would be nice to have a K.
Should I get enough backing I will do that.

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Anymore updates on AWD setup?
As of now not yet. I had an issue trying to figure out the rear knuckle for the hubs, but I finally got that all worked out.
So I am currently waiting on scheduling with the fabricator to get the missing parts we need from one location to the other to get started on the nitty gritty.
05-13-2019 10:00 AM
MG2
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Originally Posted by 1funryd View Post
The K swap may be still on the table, but for now its not a high enough demand.
Still only 2-3 serious buyers of that kit and all that will be associated with it.


U can add me to that list of buyers. Would be nice to have a K.


Anymore updates on AWD setup?
04-04-2019 05:31 AM
1funryd
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Originally Posted by Import_Tuna View Post
Very ambitious project Sean, although I can't say I'm completely surprised that you would take something like this on. I'm interested to see how this turns out although I am a little more interested in the K swap idea.
The K swap may be still on the table, but for now its not a high enough demand.
Still only 2-3 serious buyers of that kit and all that will be associated with it.
04-03-2019 08:23 PM
Import_Tuna Very ambitious project Sean, although I can't say I'm completely surprised that you would take something like this on. I'm interested to see how this turns out although I am a little more interested in the K swap idea.
04-02-2019 02:32 AM
1funryd
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Originally Posted by 3rd_gen_lude View Post
So I know you are comparing the crv and subie diffs. What about any nissan rear diff?
We are going back to CRV diff for this project. Due to cost and timeline.

The issue with awd systems is that if your diff is not the same gearing as the transmission then you will have issues with turning.
04-01-2019 06:46 AM
3rd_gen_lude So I know you are comparing the crv and subie diffs. What about any nissan rear diff?
03-25-2019 03:06 AM
1funryd
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Originally Posted by CrazyStorm View Post
So, my dream of having a boosted awd third gen is out the window then?
No, just need to change things in the swap to make sure it can handle.
Like getting an upgraded transfer case, and use a different rear diff to be able to handle the power.

This means a custom transfer case, and customized rear diff from a different car and then get custom cut gearing in the rear diff to ensure that the rear and front turn the same.

You can still boost the B20vtec and push the setup, you just need to do the research to see what combination works.
03-25-2019 02:36 AM
CrazyStorm
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Originally Posted by 1funryd View Post
Not much at all. 250whp has been the number floating around, but I personally believe around 230whp is probably max.
So, my dream of having a boosted awd third gen is out the window then?
03-10-2019 11:05 PM
1funryd
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Originally Posted by 3rd_gen_lude View Post
How much power can that crv rear diff hold? Would be awesome to do a turbo awd setup pushing high numbers without grenading diffs every time you launch.
Not much at all. 250whp has been the number floating around, but I personally believe around 230whp is probably max.
03-09-2019 11:34 AM
3rd_gen_lude How much power can that crv rear diff hold? Would be awesome to do a turbo awd setup pushing high numbers without grenading diffs every time you launch.
01-18-2019 11:56 AM
1funryd
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Originally Posted by MG2 View Post
Any more updates?
prototypes of the front and rear sub-frames done. But need to be tested.
We are now able to get more space back in the shop, my truck was one of the issues due to we used it to haul metal and parts away.
Is movable now but still not road worthy.

We should see some more progress in the next month or so.
01-16-2019 06:32 AM
MG2 Any more updates?
11-30-2018 02:00 PM
1funryd This project is still being worked on just been delayed due to some other issues outside of the project.
11-05-2018 07:57 PM
1funryd
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Originally Posted by MG2 View Post
Any more progress so far?
We have the subframe for the rear done, and we have the prototype for the front K frame that replaces the OE K frame.

We will be test fitting things in the up coming weeks, we just have to get the NSX running first so it can be driven out on its own power.
11-05-2018 08:25 AM
MG2 Any more progress so far?
09-13-2018 04:55 PM
1funryd
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Originally Posted by MG2 View Post
Any more updates ?
Nothing of any significance at this point.
We are waiting on vendors to respond for some custom work that needs to be done.
They are backed up.

So it means we are waiting..
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