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PreClude · 10-13-2011, 07:21 PM

Recently I changed out my front rotors and pads. I was going to attempt to install new wheel studs on the driver's side because one is stripped out. Once I realized how involved it was going to be, I was already halfway through taking apart the hub assembly, etc. So I put everything back together and said f* it for now. Afterwards, my ABS light came on. Then it would go on and off occasionally. Now it's on 100% of the time.

I'm sure I messed something up when reinstalling everything... or maybe the ABS module is bad. I don't know. I haven't really tried to see if my ABS actually works.... but I know the light is always blaring me in the face lol. I did bleed the brake fluid system properly and I am not low on fluid..

And then now, it's strange, but my regular BRAKE light stays on sometimes. Usually when cold in the morning... but sometimes not. When I disengage the parking brake, the light stays on. It will go off, but sometimes come back intermittently. Then it will stay off for the most part. The whole thing is just strange to me because I've never had a car do this before.

Suggestions?

H22A4 VTEC · 10-13-2011, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by PreClude

Recently I changed out my front rotors and pads. I was going to attempt to install new wheel studs on the driver's side because one is stripped out. Once I realized how involved it was going to be, I was already halfway through taking apart the hub assembly, etc. So I put everything back together and said f* it for now. Afterwards, my ABS light came on. Then it would go on and off occasionally. Now it's on 100% of the time.

I'm sure I messed something up when reinstalling everything... or maybe the ABS module is bad. I don't know. I haven't really tried to see if my ABS actually works.... but I know the light is always blaring me in the face lol. I did bleed the brake fluid system properly and I am not low on fluid..

And then now, it's strange, but my regular BRAKE light stays on sometimes. Usually when cold in the morning... but sometimes not. When I disengage the parking brake, the light stays on. It will go off, but sometimes come back intermittently. Then it will stay off for the most part. The whole thing is just strange to me because I've never had a car do this before.

Suggestions?

could have damaged the sensor

Darren's 01 SH · 10-13-2011, 07:51 PM

Check the fluid level in the reservoir and more importantly check the float in the reservoir cap because those are known to stick and will do exactly what you are talking about.

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MommysLittleMonster · 10-13-2011, 08:11 PM

Sounds like you might have damaged the wheel speed sensor on the hub. I had an ABS light until I did three wheel speed sensor on my car too.

Kronn 98SH · 10-14-2011, 12:07 AM

Let's avoid guessing.

http://www.preludepower.com/forums/s...d.php?t=312936

PreClude · 10-14-2011, 01:00 AM

Alright, I'll check the fluid again. I just checked it today and it was good. I will see about the floater thingy sticking maybe. That would cause the parking brake light to go on and off or stay on even when the brake is disengaged?

I could have sworn I tried to pull codes with the jumper pin for the ABS. The light just stayed solid. But I will try again.

Mommys - you're saying the wheel speed sensor, separate from the ABS sensor (?), could be throwing the ABS light on? And what do you mean you did "three wheel speed sensor"?

PreClude · 10-18-2011, 02:44 AM

Light still keeps coming on and off. The parking break light. Fluid levels and condition is fine. No leaking.

E-brake cable messed up maybe?

STLude · 10-18-2011, 03:24 PM

i have the same issue on cold mornings with my parking brake, it stays on and then once the car warms up it goes away, i'm sure it's not hurting anything just annoying...

PreClude · 11-03-2011, 10:20 PM

Well I finally got around to pulling the ABS light code. Or trying to. This is it. I just need to look up what the flashes indicate. I procrastinated until we had a bad snow storm here and I really needed my ABS! lol

http://youtu.be/iydi5wuBWZ8

Kronn 98SH · 11-03-2011, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PreClude

Well I finally got around to pulling the ABS light code. Or trying to. This is it. I just need to look up what the flashes indicate.

The link has already been provided.

PreClude · 11-03-2011, 11:09 PM

Yes, thank you. It's code 14, it looks like.

Just not sure if that's a wheel speed sensor or the ABS sensor or what. Helms manual is a little gray. Going to have to take the wheel off tomorrow and check it out I guess.

dblair · 11-04-2011, 07:45 AM

In order to follow the Helm trouble shooting process you need a multi tester. If the process makes no sense to you you should probably take it to a shop, unless you spot something obvious with your visual.

You'll also need to check the helm in order to reset the ABS light as just disconnecting the battery won't do it.

Pringer H · 11-04-2011, 10:47 AM

the parking brake light is caused by the brake fluid level switch being intermittent. it typically goes bad after a while when the climate starts getting colder.

Kronn 98SH · 11-04-2011, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dblair

You'll also need to check the helm in order to reset the ABS light as just disconnecting the battery won't do it.

Nope, he just needs to read the thread that was already linked.

PreClude · 11-04-2011, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Pringer H

the parking brake light is caused by the brake fluid level switch being intermittent. it typically goes bad after a while when the climate starts getting colder.

What switch is this? Easily replaceable? Accessible? Cheap?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kronn 98SH

Nope, he just needs to read the thread that was already linked.

Thanks again. I will clear the code and see if it comes back. I have a feeling it will. If it does, has anyone here had success with a Code 14 ABS?

Pringer H · 11-05-2011, 08:05 PM

sorry man i never actually saw the switch and my local honda dealership did the work for me. I bet its either in the center console attached to the ebrake or somewhere around the ebrake cables on the rear calipers.

PreClude · 11-05-2011, 10:40 PM

Thanks, it's OK.

I pulled the wheel off to take a look. Yea, there WAS no wheel speed/ABS sensor there at all. Looked like it got cut or ripped off actually. It was a clean cut on the wiring, but the sensor part of it wasn't even there bolted down or anything.

Looks like I'll be needing that $100 part soon lol

10-13-2011, 07:21 PM	#1
PreClude True Luder Join Date: May 2011 Location: Colorado Posts: 312	ABS (and BRAKE) light issues... Recently I changed out my front rotors and pads. I was going to attempt to install new wheel studs on the driver's side because one is stripped out. Once I realized how involved it was going to be, I was already halfway through taking apart the hub assembly, etc. So I put everything back together and said f* it for now. Afterwards, my ABS light came on. Then it would go on and off occasionally. Now it's on 100% of the time. I'm sure I messed something up when reinstalling everything... or maybe the ABS module is bad. I don't know. I haven't really tried to see if my ABS actually works.... but I know the light is always blaring me in the face lol. I did bleed the brake fluid system properly and I am not low on fluid.. And then now, it's strange, but my regular BRAKE light stays on sometimes. Usually when cold in the morning... but sometimes not. When I disengage the parking brake, the light stays on. It will go off, but sometimes come back intermittently. Then it will stay off for the most part. The whole thing is just strange to me because I've never had a car do this before. Suggestions?

10-13-2011, 07:51 PM	#3
Darren's 01 SH Prelude Power P-O Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Akron, Ohio Age: 30 Posts: 3,919 View Photos By: Darren's 01 SH	Check the fluid level in the reservoir and more importantly check the float in the reservoir cap because those are known to stick and will do exactly what you are talking about. Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk __________________ PAID OFF!!!! 7/14/10 Turbo engine build in the process. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. My build thread -project resurrection To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

10-13-2011, 08:11 PM	#4
MommysLittleMonster Opinionated Bastard Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Rochester, NY Age: 24 Posts: 5,817 View Photos By: MommysLittleMonster	Sounds like you might have damaged the wheel speed sensor on the hub. I had an ABS light until I did three wheel speed sensor on my car too. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. 1998 Prelude - 1998 ///M3

10-14-2011, 12:07 AM	#5
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10-18-2011, 03:24 PM	#8
STLude Lude Addict Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: St. Louis Posts: 601	i have the same issue on cold mornings with my parking brake, it stays on and then once the car warms up it goes away, i'm sure it's not hurting anything just annoying... __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

10-14-2011, 01:00 AM	#6
PreClude True Luder Join Date: May 2011 Location: Colorado Posts: 312	Alright, I'll check the fluid again. I just checked it today and it was good. I will see about the floater thingy sticking maybe. That would cause the parking brake light to go on and off or stay on even when the brake is disengaged? I could have sworn I tried to pull codes with the jumper pin for the ABS. The light just stayed solid. But I will try again. Mommys - you're saying the wheel speed sensor, separate from the ABS sensor (?), could be throwing the ABS light on? And what do you mean you did "three wheel speed sensor"?

10-18-2011, 02:44 AM	#7
PreClude True Luder Join Date: May 2011 Location: Colorado Posts: 312	Light still keeps coming on and off. The parking break light. Fluid levels and condition is fine. No leaking. E-brake cable messed up maybe?

11-03-2011, 10:20 PM	#9
PreClude True Luder Join Date: May 2011 Location: Colorado Posts: 312	Well I finally got around to pulling the ABS light code. Or trying to. This is it. I just need to look up what the flashes indicate. I procrastinated until we had a bad snow storm here and I really needed my ABS! lol http://youtu.be/iydi5wuBWZ8

11-03-2011, 11:09 PM	#11
PreClude True Luder Join Date: May 2011 Location: Colorado Posts: 312	Yes, thank you. It's code 14, it looks like. Just not sure if that's a wheel speed sensor or the ABS sensor or what. Helms manual is a little gray. Going to have to take the wheel off tomorrow and check it out I guess.

11-04-2011, 07:45 AM	#12
dblair True Luder Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sacramento Posts: 416 View Photos By: dblair	In order to follow the Helm trouble shooting process you need a multi tester. If the process makes no sense to you you should probably take it to a shop, unless you spot something obvious with your visual. You'll also need to check the helm in order to reset the ABS light as just disconnecting the battery won't do it.

11-04-2011, 10:47 AM	#13
Pringer H Lude Dude Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Seattle Posts: 100 View Photos By: Pringer H	the parking brake light is caused by the brake fluid level switch being intermittent. it typically goes bad after a while when the climate starts getting colder.

11-05-2011, 08:05 PM	#16
Pringer H Lude Dude Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Seattle Posts: 100 View Photos By: Pringer H	sorry man i never actually saw the switch and my local honda dealership did the work for me. I bet its either in the center console attached to the ebrake or somewhere around the ebrake cables on the rear calipers.

11-05-2011, 10:40 PM	#17
PreClude True Luder Join Date: May 2011 Location: Colorado Posts: 312	Thanks, it's OK. I pulled the wheel off to take a look. Yea, there WAS no wheel speed/ABS sensor there at all. Looked like it got cut or ripped off actually. It was a clean cut on the wiring, but the sensor part of it wasn't even there bolted down or anything. Looks like I'll be needing that $100 part soon lol

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