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Old 10-13-2011, 07:21 PM   #1
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ABS (and BRAKE) light issues...

Recently I changed out my front rotors and pads. I was going to attempt to install new wheel studs on the driver's side because one is stripped out. Once I realized how involved it was going to be, I was already halfway through taking apart the hub assembly, etc. So I put everything back together and said f* it for now. Afterwards, my ABS light came on. Then it would go on and off occasionally. Now it's on 100% of the time.

I'm sure I messed something up when reinstalling everything... or maybe the ABS module is bad. I don't know. I haven't really tried to see if my ABS actually works.... but I know the light is always blaring me in the face lol. I did bleed the brake fluid system properly and I am not low on fluid..

And then now, it's strange, but my regular BRAKE light stays on sometimes. Usually when cold in the morning... but sometimes not. When I disengage the parking brake, the light stays on. It will go off, but sometimes come back intermittently. Then it will stay off for the most part. The whole thing is just strange to me because I've never had a car do this before.

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Recently I changed out my front rotors and pads. I was going to attempt to install new wheel studs on the driver's side because one is stripped out. Once I realized how involved it was going to be, I was already halfway through taking apart the hub assembly, etc. So I put everything back together and said f* it for now. Afterwards, my ABS light came on. Then it would go on and off occasionally. Now it's on 100% of the time.

I'm sure I messed something up when reinstalling everything... or maybe the ABS module is bad. I don't know. I haven't really tried to see if my ABS actually works.... but I know the light is always blaring me in the face lol. I did bleed the brake fluid system properly and I am not low on fluid..

And then now, it's strange, but my regular BRAKE light stays on sometimes. Usually when cold in the morning... but sometimes not. When I disengage the parking brake, the light stays on. It will go off, but sometimes come back intermittently. Then it will stay off for the most part. The whole thing is just strange to me because I've never had a car do this before.

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could have damaged the sensor
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Old 10-13-2011, 07:51 PM   #3
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Check the fluid level in the reservoir and more importantly check the float in the reservoir cap because those are known to stick and will do exactly what you are talking about.

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Sounds like you might have damaged the wheel speed sensor on the hub. I had an ABS light until I did three wheel speed sensor on my car too.
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Old 10-14-2011, 12:07 AM   #5
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Alright, I'll check the fluid again. I just checked it today and it was good. I will see about the floater thingy sticking maybe. That would cause the parking brake light to go on and off or stay on even when the brake is disengaged?

I could have sworn I tried to pull codes with the jumper pin for the ABS. The light just stayed solid. But I will try again.

Mommys - you're saying the wheel speed sensor, separate from the ABS sensor (?), could be throwing the ABS light on? And what do you mean you did "three wheel speed sensor"?
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Old 10-18-2011, 02:44 AM   #7
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Light still keeps coming on and off. The parking break light. Fluid levels and condition is fine. No leaking.

E-brake cable messed up maybe?
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i have the same issue on cold mornings with my parking brake, it stays on and then once the car warms up it goes away, i'm sure it's not hurting anything just annoying...
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Old 11-03-2011, 10:20 PM   #9
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Well I finally got around to pulling the ABS light code. Or trying to. This is it. I just need to look up what the flashes indicate. I procrastinated until we had a bad snow storm here and I really needed my ABS! lol


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Well I finally got around to pulling the ABS light code. Or trying to. This is it. I just need to look up what the flashes indicate.
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Old 11-03-2011, 11:09 PM   #11
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Yes, thank you. It's code 14, it looks like.

Just not sure if that's a wheel speed sensor or the ABS sensor or what. Helms manual is a little gray. Going to have to take the wheel off tomorrow and check it out I guess.
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In order to follow the Helm trouble shooting process you need a multi tester. If the process makes no sense to you you should probably take it to a shop, unless you spot something obvious with your visual.

You'll also need to check the helm in order to reset the ABS light as just disconnecting the battery won't do it.
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the parking brake light is caused by the brake fluid level switch being intermittent. it typically goes bad after a while when the climate starts getting colder.
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You'll also need to check the helm in order to reset the ABS light as just disconnecting the battery won't do it.
Nope, he just needs to read the thread that was already linked.
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the parking brake light is caused by the brake fluid level switch being intermittent. it typically goes bad after a while when the climate starts getting colder.
What switch is this? Easily replaceable? Accessible? Cheap?

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Nope, he just needs to read the thread that was already linked.
Thanks again. I will clear the code and see if it comes back. I have a feeling it will. If it does, has anyone here had success with a Code 14 ABS?
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sorry man i never actually saw the switch and my local honda dealership did the work for me. I bet its either in the center console attached to the ebrake or somewhere around the ebrake cables on the rear calipers.
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Old 11-05-2011, 10:40 PM   #17
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Thanks, it's OK.

I pulled the wheel off to take a look. Yea, there WAS no wheel speed/ABS sensor there at all. Looked like it got cut or ripped off actually. It was a clean cut on the wiring, but the sensor part of it wasn't even there bolted down or anything.

Looks like I'll be needing that $100 part soon lol
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