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Old 06-29-2008, 01:54 PM   #126
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I would like to see that... I also had a GT35R and I would spike from 18-20 PSI and I barely got 350... with an AEM... then catstrophy happened... Blow by.. that is why I am rebuild all motor.. no really looking for a race car anymore sinceI am getting a Dodge Viper GTS.... but I love my lude and want to hand it down to my Daughter (she is 6 months now) when she is 16 and after the rebuild it will last for-ever... so a word to the wise.. (and I have seen it all over this site... be careful with a stock bottom end H22).. Good Luck and Please post the Dynos and Videos when you are finished...
Wow, who tuned your car. Thats pretty sad to only get 350whp at 18-20psi out of a turbo that size and on an AEM, really sad. Even if it was a 35r in the smallest trim out there that car should have been well over 400whp at that psi. Did you have the proper supporting mods or were you running say 2" IC piping, and 2 1/4 exhaust lol.

There has been several stock h's in the 300-400whp range that last. All depends on how you drive the car, how good the tune is, and what your supporting mods are. Seen 380whp out of one last for 4 years then he sold it with the same compression.

Here is jax fl's h22 turbo. Over 400whp on a 35r with a crappy log manifold lol.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/j...O-s_156210.htm

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http://videos.streetfire.net/video/j...-vs_155822.htm

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Old 06-29-2008, 04:15 PM   #127
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Wow, who tuned your car. Thats pretty sad to only get 350whp at 18-20psi out of a turbo that size and on an AEM, really sad. Even if it was a 35r in the smallest trim out there that car should have been well over 400whp at that psi. Did you have the proper supporting mods or were you running say 2" IC piping, and 2 1/4 exhaust lol.

There has been several stock h's in the 300-400whp range that last. All depends on how you drive the car, how good the tune is, and what your supporting mods are. Seen 380whp out of one last for 4 years then he sold it with the same compression.

Here is jax fl's h22 turbo. Over 400whp on a 35r with a crappy log manifold lol.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/j...O-s_156210.htm

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/j...-R6_156985.htm

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/j...-vs_155822.htm

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no... 2.5 DP 3 Inch custom exhaust... ... its called stock block... you just can't make that much power with out having the piston compression and the block built for it...... I dont care what video you show me... or who this guy races... you show me a Mustang Dyno sheet then I will believe it was photo shopped... or not a stock block...its not you talking to a high school ricer with a coffee can exhaust on his Civic... If you have any further comments or questions please refer them to www.centralfloridaturbo.com...
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Old 06-29-2008, 04:51 PM   #128
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that was a badass lil civic.
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Old 06-29-2008, 06:04 PM   #129
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and so it begins......

just mocking up to fit my exhaust (if you look closely, some of the Vbands are in the way of things like oil feed lines, etc....so don't give me hell!)

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did love-fab make your downpipe? and if so you just told them the turbo you were using and they took care of it. most places want the car there to make it. looks good though, should have put the intercooler and piping on while you were at it lol.
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Nice...what oil pan are you using?
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did love-fab make your downpipe? and if so you just told them the turbo you were using and they took care of it. most places want the car there to make it. looks good though, should have put the intercooler and piping on while you were at it lol.

actually LoveFab did make the downpipe. I made it easy on myself in two ways 1. baught everything from them so they just mocked up everything with my parts and sent them my way in one big box 2. saved so much money on shipping and parts by buying through Cody! only cost me $100 extra bucks to get the ELITE TiAL stainless steel Vband turbine!!! oh yeah.....shipping for the manifold, downpipe, turbo, BOV, WG, dump tube was $110.......FOR OVERNIGHT! haha it was origionally $50 but I wanted that shit before the weekend.

So my exhaust welder can put a flex pipe on the DP and weld the Kteller kit, QTP exhaust cut out, 2 resonators, and muffler. by the way guys....those who are thinking of boosting....use Vbands on everything. makes like so fucking easy!!!! yeah they are expensive, but damn everything is easy as hell to put together.
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Nice...what oil pan are you using?

moroso deep sunk 5.5qt.....haha i have to put 7 qts of oil in that bitch to get correct oil level.....royal purple
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Does the moroso oil pan help with dp clearance?
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how much did all your v-band clamps run? damn i wish id had known, i think when kevin(1fastlude) orders his downpipe im going to have them make one for me since we will have the same mani and turbo lol
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btw tell me your ditching the spray. you have turbo no need to spray lol just build that block and up the boost
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no... 2.5 DP 3 Inch custom exhaust... ... its called stock block... you just can't make that much power with out having the piston compression and the block built for it...... I dont care what video you show me... or who this guy races... you show me a Mustang Dyno sheet then I will believe it was photo shopped... or not a stock block...its not you talking to a high school ricer with a coffee can exhaust on his Civic... If you have any further comments or questions please refer them to www.centralfloridaturbo.com...
Piston compression for it to make the power? Higher compression will yield more power per psi on the same setup as a lower compression built motor. The turbo will spool sooner as well. It might not last as long but it can be done, and it has been done.

Block has nothing to do with the power it makes either. Were not talking 700hp numbers. I dont need to refer anything to centralfloridaturbo. There has been several stock h22a's that make well over 300whp and last, and there have been several that run 35r setups that make more than 350whp at 18-20psi. There must have been something off on your setup.

Your one of those guys that goes out and tells everyone that H's blow up all the time boosted, or you have to run 7psi crap. I have a friend that has a stock H22a in his civic making 302whp and over 3 years on the stock block with no issues.

Solid-technology's H22a with stock everything including intake manifold made 379whp and 306wtq at 11-12psi. Had the car for 4 years before he sold it with the same compression.
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Piston compression for it to make the power? Higher compression will yield more power per psi on the same setup as a lower compression built motor. The turbo will spool sooner as well. It might not last as long but it can be done, and it has been done.

Block has nothing to do with the power it makes either. Were not talking 700hp numbers. I dont need to refer anything to centralfloridaturbo. There has been several stock h22a's that make well over 300whp and last, and there have been several that run 35r setups that make more than 350whp at 18-20psi. There must have been something off on your setup.

Your one of those guys that goes out and tells everyone that H's blow up all the time boosted, or you have to run 7psi crap. I have a friend that has a stock H22a in his civic making 302whp and over 3 years on the stock block with no issues.

Solid-technology's H22a made 380whp stock everything including intake manifold and it made 379whp and 306wtq. Had the car for 4 years before he sold it with the same compression.

Really? Dude thats some impressive shit right there. I'm hoping mine last a good while. Which with me not driving it. It probably will lol.

The build is looking good. I know your so happy to finally start working on it. That dp looks good. I have to get pics up of mine.

I wish I would have gotten a traction bar. It makes things so much easier to deal with, rather than cutting the crossmember.

Looks really good though. Keep the progress coming.
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Does the moroso oil pan help with dp clearance?
It might but my dp cleared just fine, and we have the same mani. So I'm not sure why he got that oil pan.
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Does the moroso oil pan help with dp clearance?

I have no idea. I had the moroso pan on there before the turbo build.
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I belive that a lot of blown H22's has to do with poor tuning and missing something in the setup. I've baught just about every supporting mod and anticipate one precise tune. If Im 'off' on something or am over looking something that isn't a built bottom end.....please offer advice. All H22's arent going to blow up at 10psi. I am a believer that FI will ware down the internals twice as fast but I've got a strong motor that doesnt have a lot of miles on it.

lets cross our fingers and maybe I can be the one to prove the durability of a stock H22A with FI
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^Ya man, it can hit be hit or miss depending on what is done to it. That solid H22 I was talking about had well over 5 hours of tuning into it if I remember correctly.

The thing you have to remember though is PSI means crap until you compare it to the size of turbo your running. Like 10psi out of a gt28 isnt flowing the same amount of CFM as a gt35r at 10psi. The gt28 will be more efficient at this psi vs the 35r, but that doesnt mean its hurting the motor anymore.
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I belive that a lot of blown H22's has to do with poor tuning and missing something in the setup. I've baught just about every supporting mod and anticipate one precise tune. If Im 'off' on something or am over looking something that isn't a built bottom end.....please offer advice. All H22's arent going to blow up at 10psi. I am a believer that FI will ware down the internals twice as fast but I've got a strong motor that doesnt have a lot of miles on it.

lets cross our fingers and maybe I can be the one to prove the durability of a stock H22A with FI
I believe its easier said than done... Honestly I have even seen low mile, good compression h22's blow up. It happened recently to a guy on honda-tech who made some ridiculous 28x whp with an h22 at 5.5psi w/ sc61.

Dont just look at how much boost your running... also look at how much power your making. That is just as big a factor as anything else IMO. I am sure you will be fine tho... some people get lucky. My stock block has lasted over a year now and it has also seen 15psi.
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^Ya man, it can hit be hit or miss depending on what is done to it. That solid H22 I was talking about had well over 5 hours of tuning into it if I remember correctly.

The thing you have to remember though is PSI means crap until you compare it to the size of turbo your running. Like 10psi out of a gt28 isnt flowing the same amount of CFM as a gt35r at 10psi. The gt28 will be more efficient at this psi vs the 35r, but that doesnt mean its hurting the motor anymore.

this is so true. a lot of people overlook this!
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hey, just a side note. I added the 70mm BDL TB to my motor right before I took it apart and drove it.....I lost power....Im sure it needed to be tuned. So for those bolt on adders who arent FI....dont go as big as a 70mm...you really lose velocity and power goes downhill
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Piston compression for it to make the power? Higher compression will yield more power per psi on the same setup as a lower compression built motor. The turbo will spool sooner as well. It might not last as long but it can be done, and it has been done.

Block has nothing to do with the power it makes either. Were not talking 700hp numbers. I dont need to refer anything to centralfloridaturbo. There has been several stock h22a's that make well over 300whp and last, and there have been several that run 35r setups that make more than 350whp at 18-20psi. There must have been something off on your setup.

Your one of those guys that goes out and tells everyone that H's blow up all the time boosted, or you have to run 7psi crap. I have a friend that has a stock H22a in his civic making 302whp and over 3 years on the stock block with no issues.

Solid-technology's H22a with stock everything including intake manifold made 379whp and 306wtq at 11-12psi. Had the car for 4 years before he sold it with the same compression.
You maybe right.. my alernator plug leep coming loos so the Tune would be off because the power fluxuation... so maybe... but I dyno'd at 12 PSI so it was 350+HP then.. maybe peaked over 400HP when spiked top 18-20 PSI... but never had it dyno'd...

Man I wish my lude was still turbo.. cause I loved it.. but even better my wife loved. it... I only got her attention because of the Boosted Lude... but I guess I will have to settle with an All Motor (220WHP) set up and a Dodge Viper GTS to my speed demon...

Off Topic have you been to Balanced Performance.. They are the ones that installed my first turbo set up (Just the basic Greddy Kit, which is now Frompa's)
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so heres the latest....I've orderd a bunch of parts from SummitRacing and ATPturbo as far as missing pieces and plumbing goes. I didn't realize how much this set me back....jesus. Anyways, Im working on installing this BDL TB spacer w/ the TB itself. I thought this might have been a problem....the studs aren't long enough. ok so, can i remove these studs off the IM and add longer ones? Because what I really want to do is just remove both studs and just use custom through bolts with a nut on the end. For those knowledgable in this....please offer some advice!

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yes, im experiementing with this TB spacer. we shall see how this goes
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NICE.. Lookin real good dude. Oh and thats why i didnt want to get the V-band on the turbo just cuz it makes things harder to work with. But hey everything else will be V-band.

Man theres somethin i was gunna ask u but now i cant remember. CRAP.
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