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Old 11-19-2005, 08:37 PM   #1
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Smile Best cams for N/A H22.

Ok, I know that some of you are gonna tell me to go to hondatech and to look around, but I figure that this is a forum, so might as well discuss right here right?

With that said, in the future I will be porting the head of a H22 motor. What I would like to know what are the best N/A cams out there for this motor, duration and lift wise. I know very little about this so any input is great.
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Old 11-20-2005, 10:21 AM   #2
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The JUNIII cam makes very good power and its profile is pretty agressive. And you cant top the quality. Do that or get web to make you a custom profile.
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thanks for the reply. I've heard of Jun before, but not in the civic world. Do you have an idea of how much these would run me? How about springs and retainers, does this company also make them? Whats the best manifold out there for this combo, Skunk2?
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thanks for the reply. I've heard of Jun before, but not in the civic world. Do you have an idea of how much these would run me? How about springs and retainers, does this company also make them? Whats the best manifold out there for this combo, Skunk2?
The cams will run around 1k. With quality there is a price. They make valvesprings, retainers and cam gears for the h22.

manifold wise i would go with a ported Euro R manifold.
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Old 11-21-2005, 10:55 PM   #6
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damn, definetily not cheap. Where would I be able to obtain them, I looked on ebay, and yahoo, cant seem to find the manufacturer/distributor. Far as ported Euro R manifold, again, this is a new term. What is it? Where are they sold? Also, what are the advatages of this mani over skunk2?
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what on the euro-r mainfold has to be modified exactly?
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what on the euro-r mainfold has to be modified exactly?
the fuel rail and you need to make a IACV adaptor. I think you have to do somethign to the injector ports as well. check out the how to on www.collectiveracing.net, Scott did a great write up on how to install this manifold. He also has the manual tensioner converion writeup on there.
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damn, definetily not cheap. Where would I be able to obtain them, I looked on ebay, and yahoo, cant seem to find the manufacturer/distributor. Far as ported Euro R manifold, again, this is a new term. What is it? Where are they sold? Also, what are the advatages of this mani over skunk2?
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The Euro R manifold comes off the Accord Type R in Europe which is an h22a8 i believe. It's basically the same motor specs as the Type S h22 from Japan. The Euro R manifold has does not have the second set of intake valves (IAB's) and it is a much better design being that there is nothign inside it. Porting is just making the runners bigger. If you want to go a step further you can pick up a 68mm Throttle body and TB prt matched to the manifold. That little combo should give you decent gains.
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Can someone post up a pic of the IM of a h22? I'd like to see where the lower and upper meet.
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the plenum comes off exposing the iab's
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Old 11-28-2005, 06:40 PM   #12
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I am a skunk2 rep so I will say skunk2 makes great product all around
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I am a skunk2 rep so I will say skunk2 makes great product all around
too bad it doesnt make great hp for stock h22. And even on built motors, it isnt all that great. It's bad when a stock manifold can top an aftermarket mani. (euro R)
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well how much better is this euro r mani? is it like 1-2 hp difference? Skunk and a portmatched TB made a pretty big difference on my civic, I cant see it making any less of a diff on the H22.
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well how much better is this euro r mani? is it like 1-2 hp difference? Skunk and a portmatched TB made a pretty big difference on my civic, I cant see it making any less of a diff on the H22.
different platform. Can't compare. Skunk2 made slightly better peak hp, but the Euro Kicked its ass where it counts. This comparison is on a built motor but the same "kind" of results can be expected with a stock motor.
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I am a skunk2 rep so I will say skunk2 makes great product all around
to bad they where about 2 years late when they said the h22 skunk mani would be out and to top that it sucks, unless you have f/i and even then I would rather run a golden eagle manifold that was available years before the skunk. So please explain to me why I should buy this manifold? Or moreover who is this manifold targeting, and why does skunk, or for that matter any company, lie about power gains.
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comparing crower stage 1 to type s cams, which ones are better? Also, does anyone on here run the Crower stage 1 cams? the site says you do not need to upgrade the springs. Just wondering if anyone had this setup with no problems.
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comparing crower stage 1 to type s cams, which ones are better? Also, does anyone on here run the Crower stage 1 cams? the site says you do not need to upgrade the springs. Just wondering if anyone had this setup with no problems.

they are very similar. The type S cams have a little more lift than the Crowers, but the valves dont stay open as long as the crowers do. If i was deciding between type S or crower, i would prolly go Type S since you KNOW FOR A FACT that nothing is going to happen to that cam considering its a factory part. The only way i would choose crower over type S is if I was getting a better deal. Like me, my buddy is selling me his crower 1's for 200 bux.....cant beat that.
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if tuned correctly, yes.
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So, if i can get crower stage 1 cam for like $500, and the Type S are going to cost me $700, is it worth psneind ght extra $200 on the type S cams?
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i have type-s cams for sale on ebay for less than 1/2 of either of those.
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I would buy stage 1 cams over Type-S if price is the same. Just based on a dyno I saw awhile ago of (I think) Type-S v S2S1 v S2S2. They came out in that order of power.
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I would buy stage 1 cams over Type-S if price is the same. Just based on a dyno I saw awhile ago of (I think) Type-S v S2S1 v S2S2. They came out in that order of power.
skunk2 has got a little more aggressive profiles than crower does tho.
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