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Old 08-05-2004, 11:37 PM   #1
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clutch pedal switch ??

Hi again.
I have another desire - I want to 'wire out' the nasty clutch switch
that presumes folks are too stupid to depress the clutch when it
is time to crank the engine - anybody else ever do this ?
Is there an easiest way to jump it out ??

Thanks !

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Old 08-06-2004, 02:35 AM   #2
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Without looking at the wiring diagram, my first guess would be to just remove the switch and tie wrap it up under the dash in case you ever want it again.
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Old 08-06-2004, 07:51 AM   #3
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Without looking at the wiring diagram, my first guess would be to just remove the switch and tie wrap it up under the dash in case you ever want it again.
Doesn't this switch actuate when the pedal is
pushed down - i.e.: it needs pressure to do it's
thing ??

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Old 08-06-2004, 10:23 AM   #4
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I think a push bottom from radio shack my work. The thing about putting the clutch in to turn it on is that you remeber not to launch your vehicle if it is in gear.
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Old 08-06-2004, 12:11 PM   #5
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Mine went bad, I ended up replacing the starter thinking the starter was bad. Then, I had to run a wire to bypass the clutch switch.
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Old 08-06-2004, 12:17 PM   #6
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Old 08-06-2004, 12:45 PM   #7
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yeah mine never had one either. Can anyone confirm that possibly 88-89's didn't come with the clutch safety switch? I do have the other switch that tells the car the clutch pedal is all the way released (otherwise cruise control wouldn't work), but yeah like ^^^he^^^ said, my car never had a clutch safety switch; there's no wiring for it, no spot where it looks to have been or anything.
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'89 has it - because mine has it !
Dazy_too, where did you run the jumper ??

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Old 08-06-2004, 05:21 PM   #9
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I ran a high current cable (about a 10 or 12 guage wire) from just behind the steering wheel cover inside the car, to the Engine compartment on the passenger side to just past a connector that connects to the starter.

The connector in the engine bay is on the passenger side just past the shock tower towards the front of the fuse box. It's a big about one inch rectangular connector that is covered with a yellowing clear plastic cover.

Look for I believe it is the White with Black Stripe cable, at both ends; from the back of the steering wheel cover to the engine compartment. No more than 12 feet of cable needed.
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Old 08-06-2004, 08:20 PM   #10
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My switch went bad also. I just bypassed the clutch relay with a paper clip.
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Old 08-06-2004, 09:05 PM   #11
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Just a heads up that if you bypass the clutch switch, your cruise control will probably stop working. The cruise is wired to disengage when you step on the clutch.

If you use your cruise, bypassing this switch may be a bad idea.

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Old 08-07-2004, 01:24 AM   #12
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cruise control should also disengage when you push the brakes
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Old 08-07-2004, 10:16 AM   #13
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My understanding is that there are 2 clutch
switches - and in my car the starter won't engage
unless I have the clutch absolutely RAMMED into
the floor; whereas the cruise control disengages
with a gentle touch to the clutch pedal - which tends
to make me think there are 2 switches for sure.
Does anyone know more about this ?

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Old 08-07-2004, 01:26 PM   #14
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im almost certian that there are 2 switches bc the clutch must be down all tha way to start (like pushing in a button) then when the clutch is let back out (like pushing a button) it will engage the option for cruse control because if tha cruse is set and u push tha clutch pedal it will disengage the cruse thearfore leading me to beleive there are 2 switches, 1 for when its pushed all tha way in and 1 for when its let all tha way out
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Old 09-11-2006, 03:23 PM   #15
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I'm researching this because I've run into the same problem and I'll post what I found.

The below picture is a clutch pedal for a 89S but the wiring is for a 88Si.


This picture is of the 88Si clutch pedal.


This picture is taken of a 89 Prelude Helms manual.


This just leads me to believe that the 88 preludes did not have the switch and 89 preludes did. The ONE clutch wire out of 88si wiring harness does not fit either of the 89s pedal switches. So... I will try and pull the lower switch from the 88si pedal to replace the 89s switch. Nothing will be pluged into the top switch. This should work, Right!?
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Old 09-11-2006, 04:37 PM   #16
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my 88 si does not have a safety switch for the starter , only for the cruise, which i dont use anyway.and it came without the switch i didnt take it out or alter it.
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Old 09-11-2006, 04:45 PM   #17
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That's right, 88s didn't have the switch but 89s did.

I had an issue with that getting my '89 safetied when I did the auto->manual swap.
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Old 09-11-2006, 04:55 PM   #18
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saying this i could definatly be wrong but in my teg. i just zip-tied the little button thing back and bam, end of that problem........would this work on the lude????????
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Old 09-12-2006, 01:46 AM   #19
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There are indeed two clutch pedal switches on 89 ludes. One that is always on until you press the clutch at all (for cruise control), and one that is never on until you press it all the way to the floor. You can just unplug the cable from the second switch and jumper it with a paperclip or piece of wire and your car will happily start in gear. I did it not for annoyance purposes, but because you never know when you'll need to crank those few extra feet on the way to the gas station...
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Old 08-10-2007, 07:52 PM   #20
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clutch switch

Please help! car won't start. battery and alt checkout fine so I'm pretty sure it's either the clutch safety switch, ignition switch or the starter. there were no indications of the starter going bad so I'd like to start with bypassing the clutch switch. anyone know where this switch is? I found the cruise switch and the stopper is missing so I guess after I fix that the cruise will work again!!! we were able to push start the car and get it home so I know all else is fine!
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What year is the car? 88s don't have the clutch safety switch.
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it is an 89s. I'm pretty sure it's not getting juice to the starter. checked battery.
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will not start

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it is an 89s. I'm pretty sure it's not getting juice to the starter. checked battery.
ok, just eliminated the starter as the problem by connecting the solenoid directly to the battery and the car fired right up! so, I really need some help finding the clutch pedal switch for starting (not cruise) I see the cruise switch but no other switch. where is this switch???

thanks in advance!!!
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Old 08-11-2007, 10:27 AM   #24
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I had the same problem a while back with my 91. Easiest fix is a starter button. Autozone sells a 60amp enclosed starter button. Run a wire from starter to button and another wire from one of the hot wires in your steering column. Make sure you use a wire in column that is only hot when the key is on. I've had this set up for about three months and have had no issueswith it. Besides.... shouldn't a sports car have a push button start?
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Old 08-11-2007, 11:54 AM   #25
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I've never seen that top switch on EDM ludes. Whatever year model. Only the lower ones on cars with cruise control. Maybe it's USDM only?
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