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Old 09-21-2007, 01:44 AM   #26
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No you dont have to take the hood off.
I drilled all the way through because they are pretty small. I used some vaseline on the bit to catch the shavings and vacummed the rest.
You go buy a tap set. I was lucky enough that my dad had a tap/die set so i was good to go. When you have your correct 10 24 tap you thread it into the hole you drilled. It will then chase 10 24 threads in the plug , so you then can thread in your 10 24 rod. Like Akuma said you need to drill the correct size #25 or 5/32" drill bit so the tap will work correctly.

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Nice write-up, I did mine about a year ago, and it made a huge difference. May I ask you, though, how the hell are you getting 360 a tank?
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Old 09-21-2007, 01:15 PM   #28
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now can we get a write up on how to get our engine bays looking like yours?
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Old 09-22-2007, 01:36 AM   #29
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Nice write-up, I did mine about a year ago, and it made a huge difference. May I ask you, though, how the hell are you getting 360 a tank?
At first I thought it was awesome, but it really isn't all that special after I thought about it for a while. 360 miles divided by 13 gallons is around 27-28mpg. It's good, but not phenomenal. I do more highway driving when I get those numbers, but even when I do more city driving I still get 320. I usually do 70-80 on the highway, but I wish we had a 6th gear. I almost always have the AC on, but I leave it on recirculate and it seems to make a little difference since it's not constantly cooling the hot air from outside. I don't know how much of a difference it makes due to it being a manual or not, though.

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now can we get a write up on how to get our engine bays looking like yours?
if its really dirty, the initial cleaning will suck for sure. keeping it that clean is easy, though. you could even hit it up with that simple green spray at the car wash. some friends of mine get good results with it, but ive never done that on mine.
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Old 09-22-2007, 06:48 PM   #30
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nice write up and i must say you have a damn clean lude inside and out!
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ok so i jus threw a CEL saying i have insufficient EGR flow...i take it i gota clean my egr ports...so im reading this writeup...and in this picture



were it says EGR...i dont have that black thing with the plug...i jus have 2 screws on my valve cover...so wat do i take off and is that bad?
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Old 10-05-2007, 05:19 PM   #32
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well i just went out and looked at mine and i just have a little rounded off bolt. hmmm this gets me wondering also..
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bump..i need help guys lol
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Old 10-08-2007, 08:32 PM   #34
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Hey, I just did this. Thanks a bunch for the write up. It def really helped. I can tell that this helped. The idle stays strong at one RPM instead of bouncing and it sounds alot better.
If anyone is about to do this. You honestly don't need to fab a slide hammer. I just drilled a pilot hole through the plug and screwed a self-tapping screw through it and popped it out. Worked just fine.
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Old 10-11-2007, 03:59 AM   #35
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nice write up and i must say you have a damn clean lude inside and out!
thanks, but yours looks much nicer IMO

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were it says EGR...i dont have that black thing with the plug...i jus have 2 screws on my valve cover...so wat do i take off and is that bad?
it might be hard to tell in the picture, but that part doesnt attach to the valve cover. it attaches to the manifold and is held on by two nuts. if yours is completely gone maybe someone did an EGR delete, but i don't see the point of doing one unless they misled to believe it would give them more HP.

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well i just went out and looked at mine and i just have a little rounded off bolt. hmmm this gets me wondering also..
im wondering which bolt you are referring to. if you guys want I can go out and take more close up pictures of the parts instead if it will help, but i think it would be kind of hard to miss the EGR valve.

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Hey, I just did this. Thanks a bunch for the write up. It def really helped. I can tell that this helped. The idle stays strong at one RPM instead of bouncing and it sounds alot better.
If anyone is about to do this. You honestly don't need to fab a slide hammer. I just drilled a pilot hole through the plug and screwed a self-tapping screw through it and popped it out. Worked just fine.
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thanks! i did notice that mine sounded a little better, also. and thanks for posting about the screw being enough, that might help someone else looking to do this after reading this thread and not wanting to use a slide hammer. as long as it works and nothing gets damaged
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Old 10-11-2007, 08:43 AM   #36
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lol damn niceeee..and that engine bay...wow
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were did u go to buy all the required parts????
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were did u go to buy all the required parts????
Home Depot did it for me. Im sure any hardware store would be fine.
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it might be hard to tell in the picture, but that part doesnt attach to the valve cover. it attaches to the manifold and is held on by two nuts. if yours is completely gone maybe someone did an EGR delete, but i don't see the point of doing one unless they misled to believe it would give them more HP.



im wondering which bolt you are referring to. if you guys want I can go out and take more close up pictures of the parts instead if it will help, but i think it would be kind of hard to miss the EGR valve.
please!! lol..that way i can do it this weekend without messin up
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Doesnt all that debris from cleaning go right into the intake? It looks like your poking away with that wire and pieces are going to break off and stay in there.

Also, is the brass wire and carb cleaner the only thing really cleaning the cavity out? Where do I buy brass wire?

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As an update my MPG seems to have gone up about 2mpg or so. The last couple of tanks averaged 28-29mpg with the majority of it being highway miles. I figure an all highway trip could net an extra couple mpg. That's not a phenomenal gain, but every little bit helps and plus that annoying CEL has not returned.

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Doesnt all that debris from cleaning go right into the intake? It looks like your poking away with that wire and pieces are going to break off and stay in there.

Also, is the brass wire and carb cleaner the only thing really cleaning the cavity out? Where do I buy brass wire?

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Yeah most of the debris falls into the intake but when you spray the carb cleaner it turns it to liquid instantly. Then blow it out with compressed air. The Honda TSB just says to poke with a thick wire such as a coat hanger and then vacuum out as much debris as possible. The carb cleaner gets much more out than just vacuuming.
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This is an excellent write up! The dealer charges about $250 to clean the EGR ports out. I just did a guys accord, and charged him a $100.00 to do it. You can get a slide hammer at Autozone for $12.99 and its the 5lb slide hammer.
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Old 11-05-2007, 01:50 PM   #43
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Great write up. It's given me the motivation to do mine. Hope Honda UK sell the port plugs.
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Old 11-05-2007, 05:06 PM   #44
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nice write up man!!! i'll be doing this sometime soon. my lude is getting slower and slower as the rpm's go higher and higher.
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Old 11-09-2007, 12:06 PM   #45
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Hey, I just did this. Thanks a bunch for the write up. It def really helped. I can tell that this helped. The idle stays strong at one RPM instead of bouncing and it sounds alot better.
If anyone is about to do this. You honestly don't need to fab a slide hammer. I just drilled a pilot hole through the plug and screwed a self-tapping screw through it and popped it out. Worked just fine.
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I bought a screw-tip slide hammer from AutoZone in and attempt to try and remove the egr plugs out a 92 accord. Can I just drill a pilot hole and use a self-tapping screw in the slide hammer? What size and type self-tapping screw did you use and did you use a claw hammer instead of the slide hammer once you screwed in the screw? I know on one service bulletin TSB-013 it didn't mention tapping the hole, just said drill pilot hole and use screw-tip slide hammer to pull out plug. I was planning on maybe trying to not drill all way though if it would give enough hold and try and reuse the original plugs.
Any info would be great.
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In the TSB that I have, it says to drill a hole through them and vacuum the shavings as you drill and then tap threads.

I would imagine that if you tap the hole you won't need to drill a hole all the way through, but to use a self tapping screw you might need to drill all the way through for the screw to get enough threads for grip. This thread uses a self tapping screw, hopefully it helps: http://www.preludepower.com/forums/s...d.php?t=265488

Either way I would recommend not reusing the plugs unless you can somehow tap them only half the length of the plug. Even then I still would recommend the replacement plugs since they are less than a dollar each. I bought a pack of 10 for about 7 bucks. If a self tapping screw is used to take them out, I dont see how they could be reused.
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Awesome! I just did this today. Man were those ports dirty. My dad is a mechanic so he had a pretty good slide hammer I could use and the plugs just came right out. Very easy. My CEL light has been coming on and off for a few months now. However, the code is always "system too lean" and "fuel trim malfunction". After taking it to Honda, this is what they were going to do and charge me $240 to do it.

Glad I did it myself and I hope it helps with my fuel issues. My car spits a lot of carbon and it ends up on my bumber, been chasing the problem since I bought the car. My car is pearl, so it really shows up, have to wait and see if this helps or I'm calling bullshit on the stealership.

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Just went through my first full tank of gas and I got 360 to the tank from completely full to almost empty. And this is with almost 132,ooo miles. Pretty good!
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Nice write up thanks for the info.
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Nice write-up...maybe now I can add this of my list of to-do's over the winter while my car is hybernating in the garage.
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MAIN JOB OF EGR = Reduce NOx
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