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Old 06-29-2007, 01:26 PM   #51
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hey juiced. when you have the belts on please take pics... i have not got my problem resolved yet. thebalance shaft pulley. cant figure out how its suppose to line up. i see 2 markings on my balancer pulley thats to the right of the crank and below the water pump. 1 marking is on the outer edge looks like an indentation dot. and the other marking is a notch cut out on the innner edge of the gear looks like a v shape.
Hey, I already put mine back together so I dont have pics but I do have a writeup that tells you how to set your front and rear balancer shaft pulleys (its also in the Helms). PM me with your email and Ill forward it to you.
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Hey, I already put mine back together so I dont have pics but I do have a writeup that tells you how to set your front and rear balancer shaft pulleys (its also in the Helms). PM me with your email and Ill forward it to you.

May I also get a copy of that pm?, I already have mine back together, but I had some confusion on the rear balancer as well, the motor idles and runs real smooth, but I wouldn't mind comparing what I have. Thanks for all the info and the pic.............that motor looks very clean!
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May I also get a copy of that pm?, I already have mine back together, but I had some confusion on the rear balancer as well, the motor idles and runs real smooth, but I wouldn't mind comparing what I have. Thanks for all the info and the pic.............that motor looks very clean!
Sure just PM me with your email. I also uploaded the writeup here;

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0VMRP2XG

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Old 06-29-2007, 08:02 PM   #54
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thank u thank u. i justpm'ed u with my email. the stupid thing is my CHILTON MANUAL doesnt say how to set it. it just stated that i had to mark it before i start taking it off which i did but it smudged off.
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Old 10-28-2007, 08:40 AM   #55
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I'm not sure if it has been mentioned in this thread or not, but if you plan on getting rid of the balancer shafts/belts, just use PN: 92510A826 (aluminum spacer) from McMaster-Carr (mcmaster.com). This works perfectly instead of the heavy h23 balancer shaft tensioner, or reusing the equally heavy h22 balancer shaft tensioner with washers. Saves more than a couple bucks too (if you decide to buy the h23 balancer shaft tensioner)! Over 30 bucks saved! This was originally the idea of "skrewdlude" from honda-tech. Hats off to you my friend..

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Old 10-30-2007, 12:37 AM   #56
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nice but i thought it was mandatory to have the other 2 pulleys on the sides turning...i saw the write for converting not to use balance belt but for some reason my mind said not to read it. lolz
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Old 11-13-2007, 08:46 PM   #57
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Can i get these parts at a junk yards?
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:47 PM   #58
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i dont see the need in retightening unless something out of the ordinary happens. The belt will eventualy stretch enough to where you may need to retighten, but i dont see that happening anytime soon with a new belt.

I've read this whole thread and still don't hear much talk about the maintenance of the MANUAL tensioner. You said you didn't see the need to adjust it, if that was the case then Honda would have put a manual tensioner on all cars and just called it out on the 30k, 60k, or 90k service interval to check the belt tension. I can't imagine there is any advantage to going manual on a stock engine or even an engine w/ a few mods. On the flip side of that, my Ducati runs a kevlar timing belt w/ manual adjustment and once I set it I don't ever mess with it. Of course I can't compare the pressure/load on the each belt and the Ducati doesn't do anywhere near the miles the Honda does.

So in short, how are you guys actually measuring tension on the belt, and how often do you feel compelled to check it?
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if a manual tensioner back off on tension, then it needs to be replaced. You shouldn't ever have to retension the belt unless doing work on the timing belt. Using a manual tensioner is just added insurance, not to mention that it lasts longer and is much easier to work with than an auto tensioner
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if a manual tensioner back off on tension, then it needs to be replaced. You shouldn't ever have to retension the belt unless doing work on the timing belt. Using a manual tensioner is just added insurance, not to mention that it lasts longer and is much easier to work with than an auto tensioner
How do you accurately measure the tension w/o a special tool? Or did you purchase one?
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How do you accurately measure the tension w/o a special tool? Or did you purchase one?
i was told by a reputable source that you should be able to flip the timing belt 90*. I held the intake gear with a 14mm wrench, turned the crank counter clockwise and tightened the tensioner.
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i was told by a reputable source that you should be able to flip the timing belt 90*. I held the intake gear with a 14mm wrench, turned the crank counter clockwise and tightened the tensioner.
Flip it 90 degrees between which pulleys?
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My guess would be between the exhaust cam and the crank pulley. Usually deflection is measured between the pulleys that are the farthest apart.
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My guess would be between the exhaust cam and the crank pulley. Usually deflection is measured between the pulleys that are the farthest apart.
I was going to do a manual swap. but I got a discount on a auto tensioner and pulley. o well
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Update on my timing belt job:

Held up by the Crank Pulley Bolt! 28" breaker bar and probably 300 ft lbs of torque will not budge it! Fortunately I hadn't taken that much apart on the car because now I have to drive it into EagleEye's shop and have him put an impact wrench on it.

Tip: Have your crank pulley bolt broke loose at a shop BEFORE you begin your T-belt job at home. Trust me.
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lol. jlude. thats so true. I tried 3foot breaker bars. 75lb impact gun. 300ft gun and finally couldn't do anything. so my friends dad from honda came over with a impact gun called Earthquake puts out 1000+ft tq. that sucker came right off!
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I actually didn't mean to post that in this thread. heh.
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I used that special crank pulley tool, with two breaker bars, two eight foot pipes, and two 230lb guys.

And even that took about 5 minutes.

Hardest part was the engine was sitting on a wooden pallet at time.
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got damn crank pully bolt. Shit What is the torque spec on this fucking thing?
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got damn crank pully bolt. Shit What is the torque spec on this fucking thing?
I think the spec is in the 150 Ft Lb neighborhood.
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y'all sound like a bunch of girls, i had a hammer and a 1/2" ratchet and got it off in about 2 minutes
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Does anyone know what this part is for? It came with my manual tensioner kit but no mention of this bracket is shown in this DIY?!!! According to the parts list this is 14521-P14-A00 - PLATE, ADJUSTER But what does it do? Where does it go?





EDIT: I answered my own questiong by reading this entire thread:


That bracket goes where the old autotensioner was.
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I'm going to have to do this pretty soon for my other motor
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