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gfrg88 · 03-29-2012, 09:24 AM

Panda lude, ftw!!!

Benny · 03-29-2012, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by honda

Here is a picture of the unpainted 20 dollar top hats...

Have you got a picture from other angles? and if you could give me a drawing with measurements that'd be great!

My front GAZ's are on 14 CLicks and I might turn them up some more to be honest I had them on 6 and it was waaaaaaaaay too soft the front end would compress down and feel all squishy.

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Originally Posted by gfrg88

Panda lude, ftw!!!

Haha toyed with the idea of a black bonnet but there'd be too much AE86 about it!

honda · 03-29-2012, 09:45 PM

real simple. 1.75 DOM tubing with a .093" wall thickness. two inches on the bottom. 1/2 on top (for bushing locator) and some 1/8 thick square stock. weld everything up. drill a hole for the bushing sleeve (9/16 works perfect) and then cut of as much as possible from underneath. In hindsight, i'd have cut open the bottoms first. then tack weld the tubing on top to locate it, then welded everthing underneath. Reason? looks better and of course you'd have to just barely open up the shock tower. I used a 2 1/16 inch hole saw bit to cut mine open, and it ended up being the perfect size. but cutting things like this open always sketches me out.

materials...

first weld...

plate welded and the top bushing locator

after lots and lots of grinding to smooth everything out...

Benny · 03-31-2012, 04:42 PM

Thank you very much for that! I'll have a go if I get the GAZ's on the Bumpstops after lowering more.

Benny · 04-07-2012, 04:47 AM

One of my best rolling shots to date.

honda · 04-08-2012, 10:28 AM

Just to give you guys the heads up, as low as my car was i was hitting upper control arms on the shock tower. Ive raised up a little and slide my shock back back up in the pinch fork to reduce the preload and niw the car feels much better. Im going to get it aligned but to be honest, im still leaning towards the valving in the konis over the gaz...

TommyTruong · 04-08-2012, 07:14 PM

Bee Ee Ayyy UTIFUL!

rjudgey · 04-09-2012, 04:05 AM

If your going to be slamming it that low then it could be causing an issue, maybe worth having a word with GAZ see if they can make a different front shock for you, but I'm well happy with my setup I can't go any lower due to humps and to be honest being another inch lower I really can't see it making any difference to handling as Dave said being lower is not allways better!! Koni do make excellent shocks and are better than Gaz in design, but they need revalving on top of the cost of the shocks, plus shipping two ways, unless you can get them revalved in US?? I'd definately get some decent coilover sleeve adapters the ones that can be welded with the pound springs you use for extra safety.
To be honest maybe should have gone and spent a bit extra over Gaz and gone with hotbits which could have tailored on better adjustable shocks and ally top hats although you'd probably still run into shock travel issues with those too. I think your just trying to be a little too extreme, I'd set yours up to the same height as mine and try my same geo settings and see how you get on I'm sure my setup with proper track tyres on would be awesome it already does feel awesome with wets on!! When on the race track it's just great and on decent non bumpy roads holds corners better than the Beemer which handles brilliantly anyway compared to most tuned cars!
Have you tried adjusting the damping much yet? I've got mine turned up quite high all round and my Geo is -3.5 camber on front (can go to -4 and does feel good trying to make tyres last longer!) 0 toe in on front, and on the rear I have -2 camber (be good to get that upto -3) and toe in at 1 degree in the dry when tyres upto heat this setup is really balanced with a hint of oversteer although I control this with rear ride height, if I want more OS then go higher on the back, if less go lower. In the wet it is a handful if you don't pay attention lots of power off oversteer so you have to keep the power on all the time to keep it pulling in the right direction but it makes it fun to drive!!

fmn716 · 04-09-2012, 08:42 AM

found this on my fb news feed

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...&type=1&ref=nf

honda · 04-09-2012, 10:33 PM

hey rich, I'm guessing your talking towards me... Let me know what your pavement to high arch clearance is, and I might try it. I'm also considering maybe making some slightly shorter extended top hats, but I doubt that i will. However I am REALLY curious about the rear camber options you have thought up... I'm digging the adjustable rear pillow ball (ish) mount option... but i've also been thinking about making a piece that is one unit that fits into the stock mount for the lower control arms and move the lower control arms out... like this, btw this is NOT to scale, took about 10 mins to crank this out

knifemind · 04-09-2012, 11:18 PM

Benny, do you always roll with one eye open?

Benny · 04-10-2012, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TommyTruong

Bee Ee Ayyy UTIFUL!

Many thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by rjudgey

I can't go any lower due to humps and to be honest being another inch lower I really can't see it making any difference to handling as Dave said being lower is not allways better!!

I'm not lowering it for handling. JUST for looks.

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Originally Posted by fmn716

found this on my fb news feed

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...&type=1&ref=nf

Yea awesome Adam at 621.com's photo that's been shared again!

My Shoot All Crew are going to be looking so hot this year!

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Originally Posted by knifemind

Benny, do you always roll with one eye open?

Yep. I love the unsymmetrical look.

Benny · 04-16-2012, 04:07 PM

Whooopsie I may have bought ANOTHER set of wheels lols

Probably one of the only very few sets of 5x100 TOM'S Vesta's. Google only comes up with 5 pics of the 4x100 versions.

I love them! Gotta buy some superforma adapters soon, just gotta guage how thick I need them to go over my standard studs.

Oh and I'm getting the Decals done in a different colour, Black and white I think.

Th0ma5B · 04-16-2012, 06:02 PM

one second, let me just go pick my jaw up off the floor.....

honda · 04-16-2012, 08:10 PM

wait, isn't toms' a toyota thing?

gfrg88 · 04-16-2012, 09:30 PM

I thought it was a yota thing too?

rjudgey · 04-17-2012, 06:21 AM

If the offset on those are very high e.g 45-50 then it maybe possible but you'll definatey have to roll the rear arches in and maybe even have them pushed out a bit to fit adapters on and the wheels

Benny · 04-19-2012, 06:26 PM

Hmm well the TOM's wheels are on hold for now as a nice package turned up today!

Even came with wrapping paper and happy birthday written on it! No customs charges! Woot! Haha

Got them out and had a FAP!

GO DAMN I LOVE THEM! They look super old skool JDM sickness up against the car.

Just ordered Four 165/50/15's to go on them.

Ordering some 25mm adpaters soon. They will be ET-7 once those are fitted looool Awesome!

Excited!

fmn716 · 04-20-2012, 12:53 AM

Got to say I am not a fan of those tom's wheels but the ssr's are the next level of awesomeness !!!

rjudgey · 04-20-2012, 09:15 AM

Nice wheels but not so sure on your tyre choice! 165 it's gonna handle like a Shitroen 2CV!!

Benny · 04-25-2012, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fmn716

Got to say I am not a fan of those tom's wheels but the ssr's are the next level of awesomeness !!!

Yea the TOM'S were a bit of an impulse buy lol

I LOOOOVE the SSR's tho! They are at the polishers at the mo and I've got Marine grade Stainless allen head bolts coming to replace the prehistoric SSR Hardware.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rjudgey

Nice wheels but not so sure on your tyre choice! 165 it's gonna handle like a Shitroen 2CV!!

Again not massively bothered about handling dude. A little nice looking stretch will help me fit them in the arches better.

Ordered my SuperForma PCD adapters. The effective offset will be ET-7 lol

Benny · 04-28-2012, 06:23 AM

More JDM Goodness turned up. Along with a import charge. ******s.

Genuine JDM Train Handle and a Daisy Creative C-Life JDM Electric Blind.

Little video of the blind.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/4nys6XntB8Y

zedries · 04-28-2012, 06:42 AM

Don't know if I'd rock it but still an awesome JDM addition.

fmn716 · 04-28-2012, 08:50 AM

those blinds look pretty sick !!!

TommyTruong · 05-03-2012, 11:51 AM

How much are those blinds? They're pretty nice! I'd love them on my 2nd gen & is it legal under California regulations? But Benny's at it again!

03-29-2012, 09:24 AM	#101
gfrg88 True Luder Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 307	Panda lude, ftw!!! __________________ *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* -Gio

03-29-2012, 09:45 PM	#103
honda True Luder Join Date: Feb 2012 Age: 28 Posts: 256	real simple. 1.75 DOM tubing with a .093" wall thickness. two inches on the bottom. 1/2 on top (for bushing locator) and some 1/8 thick square stock. weld everything up. drill a hole for the bushing sleeve (9/16 works perfect) and then cut of as much as possible from underneath. In hindsight, i'd have cut open the bottoms first. then tack weld the tubing on top to locate it, then welded everthing underneath. Reason? looks better and of course you'd have to just barely open up the shock tower. I used a 2 1/16 inch hole saw bit to cut mine open, and it ended up being the perfect size. but cutting things like this open always sketches me out. materials... first weld... plate welded and the top bushing locator after lots and lots of grinding to smooth everything out... __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

04-08-2012, 10:28 AM	#106
honda True Luder Join Date: Feb 2012 Age: 28 Posts: 256	Just to give you guys the heads up, as low as my car was i was hitting upper control arms on the shock tower. Ive raised up a little and slide my shock back back up in the pinch fork to reduce the preload and niw the car feels much better. Im going to get it aligned but to be honest, im still leaning towards the valving in the konis over the gaz... __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

04-08-2012, 07:14 PM	#107
TommyTruong Lude Dude Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: San Diego Posts: 107	Bee Ee Ayyy UTIFUL! __________________ 2nd Gen '87 2.0 Si - 5 Speed (Official Daily Driver) 5th Gen '01 Base - 5 Speed (COMING SOON!)

04-09-2012, 04:05 AM	#108
rjudgey Prelude Aficionado Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 5,252	Suspension If your going to be slamming it that low then it could be causing an issue, maybe worth having a word with GAZ see if they can make a different front shock for you, but I'm well happy with my setup I can't go any lower due to humps and to be honest being another inch lower I really can't see it making any difference to handling as Dave said being lower is not allways better!! Koni do make excellent shocks and are better than Gaz in design, but they need revalving on top of the cost of the shocks, plus shipping two ways, unless you can get them revalved in US?? I'd definately get some decent coilover sleeve adapters the ones that can be welded with the pound springs you use for extra safety. To be honest maybe should have gone and spent a bit extra over Gaz and gone with hotbits which could have tailored on better adjustable shocks and ally top hats although you'd probably still run into shock travel issues with those too. I think your just trying to be a little too extreme, I'd set yours up to the same height as mine and try my same geo settings and see how you get on I'm sure my setup with proper track tyres on would be awesome it already does feel awesome with wets on!! When on the race track it's just great and on decent non bumpy roads holds corners better than the Beemer which handles brilliantly anyway compared to most tuned cars! Have you tried adjusting the damping much yet? I've got mine turned up quite high all round and my Geo is -3.5 camber on front (can go to -4 and does feel good trying to make tyres last longer!) 0 toe in on front, and on the rear I have -2 camber (be good to get that upto -3) and toe in at 1 degree in the dry when tyres upto heat this setup is really balanced with a hint of oversteer although I control this with rear ride height, if I want more OS then go higher on the back, if less go lower. In the wet it is a handful if you don't pay attention lots of power off oversteer so you have to keep the power on all the time to keep it pulling in the right direction but it makes it fun to drive!! __________________ i like to hunt big game boy ricers are no challenge!

03-31-2012, 04:42 PM	#104
Benny Lude Dude Join Date: Jan 2012 Age: 26 Posts: 149	Thank you very much for that! I'll have a go if I get the GAZ's on the Bumpstops after lowering more.

04-07-2012, 04:47 AM	#105
Benny Lude Dude Join Date: Jan 2012 Age: 26 Posts: 149	One of my best rolling shots to date.

04-09-2012, 08:42 AM	#109
fmn716 2G 4 LIFE !!! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Africa, JHB Age: 27 Posts: 3,164 View Photos By: fmn716	found this on my fb news feed http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...&type=1&ref=nf __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

04-09-2012, 10:33 PM	#110
honda True Luder Join Date: Feb 2012 Age: 28 Posts: 256	hey rich, I'm guessing your talking towards me... Let me know what your pavement to high arch clearance is, and I might try it. I'm also considering maybe making some slightly shorter extended top hats, but I doubt that i will. However I am REALLY curious about the rear camber options you have thought up... I'm digging the adjustable rear pillow ball (ish) mount option... but i've also been thinking about making a piece that is one unit that fits into the stock mount for the lower control arms and move the lower control arms out... like this, btw this is NOT to scale, took about 10 mins to crank this out __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

04-09-2012, 11:18 PM	#111
knifemind I was the Future, once. Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Asbestosville, MT Age: 32 Posts: 1,085 View Photos By: knifemind	Benny, do you always roll with one eye open? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

04-16-2012, 04:07 PM	#113
Benny Lude Dude Join Date: Jan 2012 Age: 26 Posts: 149	Whooopsie I may have bought ANOTHER set of wheels lols Probably one of the only very few sets of 5x100 TOM'S Vesta's. Google only comes up with 5 pics of the 4x100 versions. I love them! Gotta buy some superforma adapters soon, just gotta guage how thick I need them to go over my standard studs. Oh and I'm getting the Decals done in a different colour, Black and white I think.

04-16-2012, 06:02 PM	#114
Th0ma5B Getting Comfortable Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 66 View Photos By: Th0ma5B	one second, let me just go pick my jaw up off the floor..... __________________ My baby: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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honda True Luder Join Date: Feb 2012 Age: 28 Posts: 256	wait, isn't toms' a toyota thing? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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gfrg88 True Luder Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 307	I thought it was a yota thing too? __________________ *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* -Gio

04-17-2012, 06:21 AM	#117
rjudgey Prelude Aficionado Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 5,252	adapters and ET offset If the offset on those are very high e.g 45-50 then it maybe possible but you'll definatey have to roll the rear arches in and maybe even have them pushed out a bit to fit adapters on and the wheels __________________ i like to hunt big game boy ricers are no challenge!

04-19-2012, 06:26 PM	#118
Benny Lude Dude Join Date: Jan 2012 Age: 26 Posts: 149	Hmm well the TOM's wheels are on hold for now as a nice package turned up today! Even came with wrapping paper and happy birthday written on it! No customs charges! Woot! Haha Got them out and had a FAP! GO DAMN I LOVE THEM! They look super old skool JDM sickness up against the car. Just ordered Four 165/50/15's to go on them. Ordering some 25mm adpaters soon. They will be ET-7 once those are fitted looool Awesome! Excited!

04-20-2012, 12:53 AM	#119
fmn716 2G 4 LIFE !!! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Africa, JHB Age: 27 Posts: 3,164 View Photos By: fmn716	Got to say I am not a fan of those tom's wheels but the ssr's are the next level of awesomeness !!! __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

04-20-2012, 09:15 AM	#120
rjudgey Prelude Aficionado Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 5,252	Wheels Nice wheels but not so sure on your tyre choice! 165 it's gonna handle like a Shitroen 2CV!! __________________ i like to hunt big game boy ricers are no challenge!

04-28-2012, 06:23 AM	#122
Benny Lude Dude Join Date: Jan 2012 Age: 26 Posts: 149	More JDM Goodness turned up. Along with a import charge. ******s. Genuine JDM Train Handle and a Daisy Creative C-Life JDM Electric Blind. Little video of the blind. http://www.youtube.com/embed/4nys6XntB8Y

04-28-2012, 08:50 AM	#124
fmn716 2G 4 LIFE !!! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Africa, JHB Age: 27 Posts: 3,164 View Photos By: fmn716	those blinds look pretty sick !!! __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

05-03-2012, 11:51 AM	#125
TommyTruong Lude Dude Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: San Diego Posts: 107	How much are those blinds? They're pretty nice! I'd love them on my 2nd gen & is it legal under California regulations? But Benny's at it again! __________________ 2nd Gen '87 2.0 Si - 5 Speed (Official Daily Driver) 5th Gen '01 Base - 5 Speed (COMING SOON!)

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