Ecu?

B21A1Turbo · 11-20-2009, 12:39 PM

I'm going to be running an H23 turbo around 280 hp. My question is if its worth it go go with something like an AEM full standalone, or something similar to the Greddy E-manage? I don't WANT to have to spend $2200 for something I might not take full advantage of. A friend of mine was going to sell me his Greddy E-manage Ultimate for $250 when I get the turbo pieced together after the swap. Obviously, that's a considerable difference in $. Any thoughts here?

hjdanzi · 11-20-2009, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by B21A1Turbo

I'm going to be running an H23 turbo around 280 hp. My question is if its worth it go go with something like an AEM full standalone, or something similar to the Greddy E-manage? I don't WANT to have to spend $2200 for something I might not take full advantage of. A friend of mine was going to sell me his Greddy E-manage Ultimate for $250 when I get the turbo pieced together after the swap. Obviously, that's a considerable difference in $. Any thoughts here?

You should buy a p06 ecu, chipped of course. ZIF socket, SST 27sf512 re-programmable chip, universal cn2 datalog port, removed j12 resistor so datalogging works if you ever choose to do so. Buy one from Motoxxxman he does all the job and the tunning too... I have my boosted h23 with 240hp and it runs safely and good.

jonbar87 · 11-20-2009, 01:32 PM

eCtune, Neptune, Hondata, and AEM are all good choices. Beings your turbo'd, I would not go with greddy, but that's just my opinion.

B21A1Turbo · 11-20-2009, 01:45 PM

I'm tempted to go with the Hondata S300, as it seems to have the most capability for what I want to do. The AEM, while it does everything, is just out of my price range. They're site is PACKED with info.....

jonbar87 · 11-20-2009, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by B21A1Turbo

I'm tempted to go with the Hondata S300, as it seems to have the most capability for what I want to do. The AEM, while it does everything, is just out of my price range. They're site is PACKED with info.....

you can find used series 1 units for 5 - 600 dollars all over...specially now that the series two units are out. You can run tuner on a series 1 unit as well, you just have set up all your sensors/wizards in pro and then open the cal in tuner because the sensor wizards are not compatible between the two.

If I wasn't in love with my AEM quite so much I'd sell you mine for pretty cheap, but I just don't wanna get rid of it quite yet...i love having full control over my engine

B21A1Turbo · 11-20-2009, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jonbar87

you can find used series 1 units for 5 - 600 dollars all over...specially now that the series two units are out. You can run tuner on a series 1 unit as well, you just have set up all your sensors/wizards in pro and then open the cal in tuner because the sensor wizards are not compatible between the two.

If I wasn't in love with my AEM quite so much I'd sell you mine for pretty cheap, but I just don't wanna get rid of it quite yet...i love having full control over my engine

Nice

I think the S300 by Hondata is only $525 or so, but its basically a standalone for specific applications. Part of me is like "go for it!", part of me says "just fucking save and buy an AEM"....so I'm going to let them fight it out and see who wins

jonbar87 · 11-20-2009, 10:37 PM

http://www.hondamarketplace.com/show...light=aem+1040

http://www.hondamarketplace.com/show...light=aem+1040

if you have a conversion harness, this one will work: http://www.hondamarketplace.com/show...light=aem+1040

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AEM-E...Q5fAccessories

ben_deez · 11-21-2009, 08:45 AM

I'm running a p06 chipped and modded to a p72....originally I bought the chipped p06 from motoxxxman without vtec and IAB hardware installed..(originally for my b20a)...

after H22 swap, I bought and added vtec and IAB hardware, then purchased ostrich 2.0 emulator, and hulog datalogger....then finally breaking down and buying crome pro.... which, in my opinion was worth it...and I am not by any means a "rich man"......in other words... its an affordable tuning option....and I got crazy power.... and I still have visions of a turbo in the future...........

B21A1Turbo · 11-21-2009, 12:57 PM

Nice. If you don't mind me asking, how much did that set you back?

preludefan · 11-21-2009, 02:53 PM

if you want a cheap standalone- got for a megasquirt- they start from less than 200 bucks last time i checked- and thats a full standalone ecu with many versions of it tuning software being available free on the internet

B21A1Turbo · 11-21-2009, 05:56 PM

Forgot all about Megasquirt.....I'll have to talk it over with the guy who is going to tune it for me to see what he's done. I'm pretty sure he's used MS a good number of times on various VW's that he's done.....it can't be much different for a Honda.

ben_deez · 11-22-2009, 03:34 AM

oops... sorry for double post

ben_deez · 11-22-2009, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by B21A1Turbo

Nice. If you don't mind me asking, how much did that set you back?

ok, costs..... give or take a few bucks here and there
---------------------------------------------
chipped p06... $200.. from motoxxxman
(Ostrich 2.0) ...$175.00
(hulog) ...$35.00
(VTEC-Conv) ...$19.00 .......(I already had the IAB hardware)
crome pro ...$120

$549 aint bad.,.... but if I would have had all this money up front.... there's no tellin what I would have bought......first,. I bought the ostrich and vtec conv .......and just used crome (non pro) until I could buy the hulog and crome pro......and it all worked perfect from the git-go

and thats basically where i'm at right now......about 3 months of datalogging under my belt, and i'm just scratching the surface.......

rushi · 11-22-2009, 03:56 AM

For such of a mild turbo build, take a look at AEM F/IC. I run it in my (currently stock) 5g/H22. Works nice.

jonbar87 · 11-22-2009, 09:17 AM

I have a chipped P06 (P28 ) OBD1 ECU with a conversion harness for sale...now that I have my AEM I don't need it. I'd let it go real cheap.

B21A1Turbo · 11-22-2009, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jonbar87

I have a chipped P06 (P28 ) OBD1 ECU with a conversion harness for sale...now that I have my AEM I don't need it. I'd let it go real cheap.

Well I won't be able to buy anything till after the holiday, with Xmas and all that coming up. But I will let you know afterwards, if you still have it.

11-20-2009, 12:39 PM	#1
B21A1Turbo Lude Dude Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Pothole Heaven, Northeast PA Posts: 196 iTrader: (0)	Ecu? I'm going to be running an H23 turbo around 280 hp. My question is if its worth it go go with something like an AEM full standalone, or something similar to the Greddy E-manage? I don't WANT to have to spend $2200 for something I might not take full advantage of. A friend of mine was going to sell me his Greddy E-manage Ultimate for $250 when I get the turbo pieced together after the swap. Obviously, that's a considerable difference in $. Any thoughts here?

11-20-2009, 01:32 PM	#3
jonbar87 Preludepower Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Stationed In Arkansas Posts: 1,738 iTrader: (5) View Photos By: jonbar87	eCtune, Neptune, Hondata, and AEM are all good choices. Beings your turbo'd, I would not go with greddy, but that's just my opinion. __________________ "The chance that higher life forms might have emerged from a ball of slime is comparable to the chance that a tornado sweeping through a junk yard might assemble a Boeing 747 from the materials therein."

11-20-2009, 10:37 PM	#7
jonbar87 Preludepower Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Stationed In Arkansas Posts: 1,738 iTrader: (5) View Photos By: jonbar87	http://www.hondamarketplace.com/show...light=aem+1040 http://www.hondamarketplace.com/show...light=aem+1040 if you have a conversion harness, this one will work: http://www.hondamarketplace.com/show...light=aem+1040 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AEM-E...Q5fAccessories __________________ "The chance that higher life forms might have emerged from a ball of slime is comparable to the chance that a tornado sweeping through a junk yard might assemble a Boeing 747 from the materials therein." Last edited by jonbar87; 11-20-2009 at 10:40 PM.

11-21-2009, 08:45 AM	#8
ben_deez fis-tuppa-cop-sass Join Date: May 2007 Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 35 Posts: 568 iTrader: (2) View Photos By: ben_deez	I'm running a p06 chipped and modded to a p72....originally I bought the chipped p06 from motoxxxman without vtec and IAB hardware installed..(originally for my b20a)... after H22 swap, I bought and added vtec and IAB hardware, then purchased ostrich 2.0 emulator, and hulog datalogger....then finally breaking down and buying crome pro.... which, in my opinion was worth it...and I am not by any means a "rich man"......in other words... its an affordable tuning option....and I got crazy power.... and I still have visions of a turbo in the future........... __________________ d To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. I'm from a small town called *fis-tuppa-cop-sass.. and I'm homesick.*

11-21-2009, 02:53 PM	#10
preludefan Preludepower Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: new zealand Posts: 1,087 iTrader: (1)	if you want a cheap standalone- got for a megasquirt- they start from less than 200 bucks last time i checked- and thats a full standalone ecu with many versions of it tuning software being available free on the internet __________________ don't front and never try to be what you're not Cause you can be quick, jump the candlestick, burn your back and fuck Jill on a hill, but you still ain't Jack

11-20-2009, 01:45 PM	#4
B21A1Turbo Lude Dude Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Pothole Heaven, Northeast PA Posts: 196 iTrader: (0)	I'm tempted to go with the Hondata S300, as it seems to have the most capability for what I want to do. The AEM, while it does everything, is just out of my price range. They're site is PACKED with info.....

11-21-2009, 12:57 PM	#9
B21A1Turbo Lude Dude Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Pothole Heaven, Northeast PA Posts: 196 iTrader: (0)	Nice. If you don't mind me asking, how much did that set you back?

11-21-2009, 05:56 PM	#11
B21A1Turbo Lude Dude Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Pothole Heaven, Northeast PA Posts: 196 iTrader: (0)	Forgot all about Megasquirt.....I'll have to talk it over with the guy who is going to tune it for me to see what he's done. I'm pretty sure he's used MS a good number of times on various VW's that he's done.....it can't be much different for a Honda.

11-22-2009, 03:34 AM	#12
ben_deez fis-tuppa-cop-sass Join Date: May 2007 Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 35 Posts: 568 iTrader: (2) View Photos By: ben_deez	oops... sorry for double post Last edited by ben_deez; 11-22-2009 at 02:50 PM.

11-22-2009, 03:56 AM	#14
rushi Newbie Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Finland, North Europe Age: 27 Posts: 40 iTrader: (1)	For such of a mild turbo build, take a look at AEM F/IC. I run it in my (currently stock) 5g/H22. Works nice. __________________ '97 BB6 Prelude 2.2VTi

11-22-2009, 09:17 AM	#15
jonbar87 Preludepower Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Stationed In Arkansas Posts: 1,738 iTrader: (5) View Photos By: jonbar87	I have a chipped P06 (P28 ) OBD1 ECU with a conversion harness for sale...now that I have my AEM I don't need it. I'd let it go real cheap. __________________ "The chance that higher life forms might have emerged from a ball of slime is comparable to the chance that a tornado sweeping through a junk yard might assemble a Boeing 747 from the materials therein."

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