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DDuckSIrt
11-14-2005, 08:18 PM
anybody? i was wondering b/c right now i`m workin on boosting my 91 lude.i also a type s h22 motor for a hell of a deal but don`t want to turbo i want all motor.jus wondering if anybody did this how many horses?anything that relates to tha subject

evoludersir
11-14-2005, 08:24 PM
i know that off the bat the type S makes 220Hp 163tq @the crank. so if you build it up it's one hell of a strong motor. i have one in the works for my 3rd gen.

flylwsi
11-15-2005, 08:09 AM
the type S has different cams and a couple other pieces, doesn't make it "one hell of a strong motor"

just makes more power.

like he said.
220hp.
so that's like 175-190 whp.

WAY more than stock.

Kabuki
11-15-2005, 01:42 PM
I'm not sure that there is very much building left in a Type-S engine... Sure, some higher compression pistons, lighter rods?, better valve springs and retainers. Maybe some porting?

DDuckSIrt
11-15-2005, 09:18 PM
sorry i`m gonna refraise it.whats a good estimate 4 an all motor jdm h22.to extract more horsepower jus like kabuki was leading to,out an jdm type s . still searching but thought i would get a qiucker response any info ,help,ect getting it 4 cheap

98vtec
11-16-2005, 10:53 AM
it makes about 185-190 whp stock. I really wouldnt buy it if you are just planning on rebuilding it.

Bobnova
11-16-2005, 02:16 PM
If your building it, there is no difference between a type s and a base h22, you'll be replacing all the internals anyway, so why bother with a motor that costs twice as much.

TopEndLude
11-16-2005, 10:23 PM
^^^ like they said the difference is in the cams and it has a little higher compression raitio. mine dynoed at 187

teamable
11-18-2005, 04:24 AM
hmmmmmm lets say i wanted to build one for redline what is stock and tuned/built redline, i know i can do 10k on a built turbo but i wanna know if the na redline even compares

98vtec
11-18-2005, 11:36 AM
hmmmmmm lets say i wanted to build one for redline what is stock and tuned/built redline, i know i can do 10k on a built turbo but i wanna know if the na redline even compares

:?:

flylwsi
11-18-2005, 11:44 AM
hmmmmmm lets say i wanted to build one for redline what is stock and tuned/built redline, i know i can do 10k on a built turbo but i wanna know if the na redline even compares

you can make it rev just as high either way...

evoludersir
11-18-2005, 05:30 PM
well i take that back what i meant was that it makes power you guys know what i mean.

flylwsi
11-18-2005, 05:46 PM
honestly?
no.
we don't know what you meant.

could you explain?

Beqa 16V
11-19-2005, 01:52 PM
Type S is a normal H22 with some performance parts. no need for buying it if you want to fully build the engine

98vtec
11-19-2005, 11:58 PM
Type S is a normal H22 with some performance parts. no need for buying it if you want to fully build the engine

Type S has a factory port and polish, more aggressive cam profile, 1 point higher compression and a few other lil jibblets of changes

flylwsi
11-20-2005, 12:58 PM
a turbo'd h22 is just an h22 with some performance parts.
so is stephen papadakis' rwd civic's h22. just an h22 with performance parts.
genius post...

staying NA? if you can start with a Type S motor.
do it.
end of story.

Beqa 16V
11-20-2005, 02:38 PM
that's ridiculos. how much will it cost to take JDM H22 to 220hp? yes, it will be waaay cheaper than buying Type S. the guy could save some money and get moore power per $.

Beqa 16V
11-20-2005, 02:42 PM
Type S has a factory port and polish, more aggressive cam profile, 1 point higher compression and a few other lil jibblets of changes

Type S has 0.4 moore compression than H22A (JDM 10.6) which puts down 200hp to the crank and we all know how much good cams cost

98vtec
11-20-2005, 02:53 PM
Type S has 0.4 moore compression than H22A (JDM 10.6) which puts down 200hp to the crank and we all know how much good cams cost

jdm yes.... i was referring to the usdm motor that most people have

flylwsi
11-20-2005, 06:12 PM
bega...
honestly, you've not had much positive to say, and you've not had much CORRECT to say either.

do us a favor.

break it down both ways for us.
usdm h22 vs. type S zero vs. jdm h22

pricing (approximate) for what it would cost to get them all to the 200whp mark.

assume it's for a swap.
price of engine/trans/ecu
then price of components to get it to that power range.

until then?
just stop. seriously.

TopEndLude
11-20-2005, 08:22 PM
http://www.jspecautosports.com this web site will give you all the info you need to know form pricing to compression ratio. They are really cool people helped me find the type-s and ecu $2,500 the ecu cost $700 so I didn't get just ran un usdm ecu until I could afford hondata.

Beqa 16V
11-20-2005, 11:59 PM
bega...
honestly, you've not had much positive to say, and you've not had much CORRECT to say either.

do us a favor.

break it down both ways for us.
usdm h22 vs. type S zero vs. jdm h22

pricing (approximate) for what it would cost to get them all to the 200whp mark.

assume it's for a swap.
price of engine/trans/ecu
then price of components to get it to that power range.

until then?
just stop. seriously.


ok :) i'm not commenting on this any more but now i have JDM prelude with H22A and i want to go all motor. what should i do? sell my engine and buy Type S for that 20hp? :Rock:

98vtec
11-21-2005, 12:12 AM
ok :) i'm not commenting on this any moore but now i have JDM prelude with H22A and i want to go all motor. what should i do? sell my engine and buy Type S for that 20hp? :Rock:

no man, just build the motor you have. If you are going all motor and you are going to be rebuildint it anyways, there is no point in buying the type S if you are just going to break it down and replace all the stuff in there.

IMO, run f22/h23 crank, f22 rods and type S pistons. And some JUN cams and you will be straight

Blue01
11-21-2005, 12:17 AM
no man, just build the motor you have.

Yeah...the only reason to buy a Type-S/SiR S-spec swap is if you don't want to mess with the factory internals, but want a bit of compression, etc.

Beqa 16V
11-21-2005, 07:10 AM
no man, just build the motor you have. If you are going all motor and you are going to be rebuildint it anyways, there is no point in buying the type S if you are just going to break it down and replace all the stuff in there.

IMO, run f22/h23 crank, f22 rods and type S pistons. And some JUN cams and you will be straight

is H23 crank that reliable? i mean can it handle high RPM? I want to drive that car a lil, not only in weekends. what advantage the H23 crank has?